Daytona 765, looks like 2019 is the year...
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I think it will be a 2020 release, if at all.
That bike is a 675R with the new engine, it's perhaps a way they can make it viable to put on sale. Use the tooling and a high number of parts from the 675, with just the engine getting updated.
The top Street triple is £10,300 and it's going to be more expensive than that.
That leaves not much room before getting close to the price of a GSXR1000.
That bike is a 675R with the new engine, it's perhaps a way they can make it viable to put on sale. Use the tooling and a high number of parts from the 675, with just the engine getting updated.
The top Street triple is £10,300 and it's going to be more expensive than that.
That leaves not much room before getting close to the price of a GSXR1000.
I'd be really tempted, I love my 675r.
That said I read somewhere that the expected output will be somewhere around 136hp.
Given that the GSXR750 was making an estimated 148hp from an engine that's 8 years old that isn't stellar advancement.
I guess that's the price of being euro 5 compliant!
That said I read somewhere that the expected output will be somewhere around 136hp.
Given that the GSXR750 was making an estimated 148hp from an engine that's 8 years old that isn't stellar advancement.
I guess that's the price of being euro 5 compliant!
I sincerely hope they do produce this. However a friend of mine works in a Triumph dealership and they actually had a visit from John Bloor who owns Triumph and in a discussion, it was announced that Triumph had no interest in producing sports bikes, a small capacity learner machine or extending the range further. They were focusing on the naked bikes and if I recall, the adventure bikes. But it will be interesting to see what happens, as I think this would be a winner.
robinh73 said:
But it will be interesting to see what happens, as I think this would be a winner.
The problem as I see it though is will people actually buy it new?Lots of people would look to wait till it hits the second hand market and look to pick up one then.
If manufacturers cant shift units from dealers though they will stop developing them.
I'll definitely check it out when it hits my local dealer... might be a dangerous visit!
HughiusMaximus said:
robinh73 said:
But it will be interesting to see what happens, as I think this would be a winner.
The problem as I see it though is will people actually buy it new?Lots of people would look to wait till it hits the second hand market and look to pick up one then.
If manufacturers cant shift units from dealers though they will stop developing them.
I'll definitely check it out when it hits my local dealer... might be a dangerous visit!
HughiusMaximus said:
I'd guess the 2019 S1000rr will probably jump up a price point so not as direct a competitor on price.
I'd say it will be more squarely in the price bracket of the GSXR1000 or the Fireblade, maybe even the 959 Panigale.
You mean base models of GSXR1000 or Fireblade or R/SP versions?I'd say it will be more squarely in the price bracket of the GSXR1000 or the Fireblade, maybe even the 959 Panigale.
Edited by HughiusMaximus on Monday 11th February 15:31
I'd put F3 800 as competitor as well. Great bike, I tried it back in 2015 but decided to keep Daytona.
There was an interesting comparison of GSXR750, ZX636, and Daytona back in 2013 in German Motorrad. Daytona won on everything but day-to-day living. It also had the best in-gear acceleration.
https://www.motorradonline.de/test/triumph-daytona...
Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Monday 11th February 16:17
HughiusMaximus said:
robinh73 said:
But it will be interesting to see what happens, as I think this would be a winner.
The problem as I see it though is will people actually buy it new?Lots of people would look to wait till it hits the second hand market and look to pick up one then.
If manufacturers cant shift units from dealers though they will stop developing them.
I'll definitely check it out when it hits my local dealer... might be a dangerous visit!
HughiusMaximus said:
I'd be really tempted, I love my 675r.
That said I read somewhere that the expected output will be somewhere around 136hp.
Given that the GSXR750 was making an estimated 148hp from an engine that's 8 years old that isn't stellar advancement.
I guess that's the price of being euro 5 compliant!
But really the last of the GSXR750s made 130-133bhp on a dyno. It's all about revs and a triple is at an immediate disadvantage here. That said I read somewhere that the expected output will be somewhere around 136hp.
Given that the GSXR750 was making an estimated 148hp from an engine that's 8 years old that isn't stellar advancement.
I guess that's the price of being euro 5 compliant!
Like many, I love them. Can't wait to see a new Daytona sportbike. Hopefully it will be a little more spacious, although I doubt it
I have both, and the 750 has always felt it pulls a lot stronger when it gets in the sweet spot of the rev range.
675r power is deceptive though, its so linear that it doesn't feel that fast / powerful.. until you look down at the speedo!
750 definitely feels more comfortable, but I actually prefer the ergnomics on the 675r. The way it throws you forward on the bars makes it feel more focused, like its egging you on to have fun.
Both have their pluses but when the time comes for me to sell one it will be 675 that stays in the garage.
I wonder if they do a limited edition run 765 if they will have test models in dealers or whether you will just have to order unseen?
675r power is deceptive though, its so linear that it doesn't feel that fast / powerful.. until you look down at the speedo!
750 definitely feels more comfortable, but I actually prefer the ergnomics on the 675r. The way it throws you forward on the bars makes it feel more focused, like its egging you on to have fun.
Both have their pluses but when the time comes for me to sell one it will be 675 that stays in the garage.
I wonder if they do a limited edition run 765 if they will have test models in dealers or whether you will just have to order unseen?
robinh73 said:
I sincerely hope they do produce this. However a friend of mine works in a Triumph dealership and they actually had a visit from John Bloor who owns Triumph and in a discussion, it was announced that Triumph had no interest in producing sports bikes, a small capacity learner machine or extending the range further. They were focusing on the naked bikes and if I recall, the adventure bikes. But it will be interesting to see what happens, as I think this would be a winner.
Interesting. Begs the question why bother with the Moto2 engine deal? robinh73 said:
it was announced that Triumph had no interest in producing sports bikes, a small capacity learner machine or extending the range further.
The comments above or that it will be good publicity?Not that he was any more in the know than the rest of us but I was chatting to a guy who works in my local dealer and he thought they might do a limited edition Daytona with the 765 engine to gauge interest.
If there is huge interest they would consider putting it in to more scaled production, but that they aren't going to produce a bike they aren't sure will sell well.
Edited by HughiusMaximus on Monday 11th February 21:26
HughiusMaximus said:
I have both, and the 750 has always felt it pulls a lot stronger when it gets in the sweet spot of the rev range.
675r power is deceptive though, its so linear that it doesn't feel that fast / powerful.. until you look down at the speedo!
750 definitely feels more comfortable, but I actually prefer the ergnomics on the 675r. The way it throws you forward on the bars makes it feel more focused, like its egging you on to have fun.
Both have their pluses but when the time comes for me to sell one it will be 675 that stays in the garage.
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Look at that German article.675r power is deceptive though, its so linear that it doesn't feel that fast / powerful.. until you look down at the speedo!
750 definitely feels more comfortable, but I actually prefer the ergnomics on the 675r. The way it throws you forward on the bars makes it feel more focused, like its egging you on to have fun.
Both have their pluses but when the time comes for me to sell one it will be 675 that stays in the garage.
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There is a plot of rear wheel horsepower in 6th gear against the speed.
Daytona is at the top all the time, 750 is at the bottom...until the very top of rev range.
I have been contemplating part-exing Daytona for Speed Triple RS (I have Fireblade 954 and GSXR1000R and the daily is CBR600F4i)...but I have hard time justifying that exchange given the fact I would have to pay up extra 5000CHF for a slightly used Speed RS after I sell Daytona.
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