Shoei GT Air II
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SidG

Original Poster:

85 posts

106 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Hi all,

Looking to upgrade my HJC RPHA ST (my one and only helmet since passing my test). Tried on the new Shoei GT Air II and it felt a real step up in terms of quality. My HJC has been good but gets really tiring on long trips with wind noise even with ear plugs. Any of you guys have the new shoei? The possibility of the integrated unit Sena really appeals to me as well as I always listen to music and occasionally use a sat nav.

jjones

4,492 posts

224 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2019
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Just bought a GT air (1) as they are on sale (as the 2 has been released), fitted my cardo packtalk with zero issues. Will report back tomorrow after the 60 mile commute.

Rubin215

4,201 posts

187 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2019
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A Shoei helmet is always going to be a step up in quality compared to a HJC.

Ignoring the price-tag, Shoei, Arai and maybe Schuberth really stand above the competition in terms of design and comfort; safety is maybe a moot point (if you believe the SHARP ratings), but personally, I wouldn't buy anything else.

timskipper

1,306 posts

297 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2019
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I have a GT Air 1 (good deal, also matches my S1000R colour scheme perfectly) and a Neotec 2 - have dabbled with other brands in the past but nothing ever fits me as well as a Shoei.

My only complaint about the Air is the old fashioned d-buckle. I don't know if this is retained on the new one or not though.

Rubin215

4,201 posts

187 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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timskipper said:
I have a GT Air 1 (good deal, also matches my S1000R colour scheme perfectly) and a Neotec 2 - have dabbled with other brands in the past but nothing ever fits me as well as a Shoei.

My only complaint about the Air is the old fashioned d-buckle. I don't know if this is retained on the new one or not though.
I much prefer a D ring strap to anything else; perfect adjustment every time you put it on, no matter what else you are wearing, no matter whether you've been hitting the pints or skipping the crisps.

outnumbered

4,885 posts

265 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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timskipper said:
I have a GT Air 1 (good deal, also matches my S1000R colour scheme perfectly) and a Neotec 2 - have dabbled with other brands in the past but nothing ever fits me as well as a Shoei.

My only complaint about the Air is the old fashioned d-buckle. I don't know if this is retained on the new one or not though.
I hope so, all the other fastening types are less comfortable and less practical.

Bungleaio

6,593 posts

233 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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I tried an air 2 on St motorcycle live in November and it was just as comfortable as my air 1. The internal visor is larger in the new one so you don't get the gap at the bottom.

The new one does not have the D ring which I think is a shame. Apparently the UK was the only market to have the D ring the rest of the world used the clip thing which the new one is having. That's what the shoei rep told me anyway.

Krikkit

27,939 posts

212 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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Rubin215 said:
I much prefer a D ring strap to anything else; perfect adjustment every time you put it on, no matter what else you are wearing, no matter whether you've been hitting the pints or skipping the crisps.
I agree completely there - it's a simple, easy system that's always comfy. Why fiddle with it?

Sea Demon

1,170 posts

244 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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My GT Air 1 had the clip type fastener but I bought from a Spain, Motocard.com.

EvoDelta

8,288 posts

221 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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Sea Demon said:
My GT Air 1 had the clip type fastener but I bought from a Spain, Motocard.com.
Mine does too. In the Netherlands.

immigrant

397 posts

226 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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Rubin215 said:
A Shoei helmet is always going to be a step up in quality compared to a HJC.
Disagree. My RPHA70 is way better than the GT Air 1 I ran for a few years.

Higher quality paint without a doubt, less flex in the side pod mechanism, better quality inner and outer visors and flows more air than something called a GT Air. The liner is also more luxurious and comfortable.

SidG

Original Poster:

85 posts

106 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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immigrant said:
Disagree. My RPHA70 is way better than the GT Air 1 I ran for a few years.

Higher quality paint without a doubt, less flex in the side pod mechanism, better quality inner and outer visors and flows more air than something called a GT Air. The liner is also more luxurious and comfortable.
Interesting. The RPHA70 felt very good too. Perhaps I’m being drawn into the Shoei brand name a bit too much. Guy at j and s said it’s like comparing a Ferrari to a Ford. Unfair exaggeration?

SVS

3,824 posts

302 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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Rubin215 said:
I much prefer a D ring strap to anything else; perfect adjustment every time you put it on, no matter what else you are wearing, no matter whether you've been hitting the pints or skipping the crisps.
^ this yes

To fasten the chin strap, why has Shoei ruined the GT Air by changing the excellent D-ring for a stupid clip?

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

156 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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I have GT Air, used it for 4 years. Very nice helmet, comfortable, but somewhat heavy. I like the buckle as well. My XLite 802RR are lighter but do not sit as comfortable as GT Air.

Good comparison of GT Air and GT Air II:

https://www.championhelmets.com/en/blogs/blog/comp...

immigrant

397 posts

226 months

Friday 5th April 2019
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SidG said:
Interesting. The RPHA70 felt very good too. Perhaps I’m being drawn into the Shoei brand name a bit too much. Guy at j and s said it’s like comparing a Ferrari to a Ford. Unfair exaggeration?
Well the Shoei is something like 200 smackers more expensive. It should be better for that sort of uplift.

But the comparison is unfair as things stand. YMMV.

SVS

3,824 posts

302 months

Friday 5th April 2019
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Ho Lee Kau said:
I like the buckle as well.
Please persuade me about the buckle. Buckle fasteners have always been a deal-breaker for me, but perhaps they've improved since I last used one.

I struggle to see the advantage of a buckle over a D-ring fastener ...
Krikkit said:
Rubin215 said:
I much prefer a D ring strap to anything else; perfect adjustment every time you put it on, no matter what else you are wearing, no matter whether you've been hitting the pints or skipping the crisps.
I agree completely there - it's a simple, easy system that's always comfy. Why fiddle with it?

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

221 months

Friday 5th April 2019
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Is a "buckle" the wee seatbelt thing? It's fractionally faster to close, requires less dexterity (thick gloves, cold hands) and it's ultimately less fiddly would be the obvious advantages.

I know it requires sporadic adjustment, unlike a D-ring (which I'm honestly fine with), but conversely I really don't see the advantage in a the D-ring.

Even if the adjustment is slightly out on the "buckle" type on occasion (although it really doesn't have to be), it strikes me as incredibly unlikely to confer any advantage. I mean in an accident it seems unlikely to be any help, beyond keeping the helmet on your head, which either strap will do. A few mm movement I can't see making any difference personally.

SAS Tom

3,755 posts

205 months

Friday 5th April 2019
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The use of a ratchet/buckle/seatbelt/whatever you call it is due to crash data. They are used because lots of young people have died due to not fastening their helmet. A ratchet is easier to fasten so people are more likely to fasten their helmets.

For those of us who fasten their helmets anyway it’s just down to personal preference. There’s no evidence to suggest one is stronger than the other.

Personally I always prefer a D ring as I’m used to using them.

outnumbered

4,885 posts

265 months

Friday 5th April 2019
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My experience with a catch-type fitting on a previous helmet was:

  • The adjustment slipped constantly and needed tightening every few days
  • the body of the mechanism dug into my jaw when it was at the correct tightness to stop the helmet flapping about, so I ended up wearing it looser than I wanted
  • slightly fiddly to operate
DD solves the first two.


Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

221 months

Friday 5th April 2019
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SAS Tom said:
The use of a ratchet/buckle/seatbelt/whatever you call it is due to crash data. They are used because lots of young people have died due to not fastening their helmet. A ratchet is easier to fasten so people are more likely to fasten their helmets.

For those of us who fasten their helmets anyway it’s just down to personal preference. There’s no evidence to suggest one is stronger than the other.

Personally I always prefer a D ring as I’m used to using them.
Sensible post.