Aragon SBK

[chunder27]

For a struggling series, a damn good race.

If you can ignore the fact Bautista was pulling a second a lap on the field and won by 16 or so seconds lol!

Great to see Chaz back on form, but that also shows that it is Alvaro doing the work on that bike, it isn't just the bike.

[Mr Dendrite]

I agree, some great racing. I think if Rea had been on the front row the gap would have been smaller. The Ducati is clearly the most powerful bike and I also think it was designed to ride like a Moto gp bike.
This has allowed Bautista to adapt to it quickly but Davis and Laverty are getting there. It was interesting that Davis commented on Bautista’s earlier braking riding style.
I think if he hadn’t got the the advantages described above and was having to fight in the pack his riding style would be costing him in the overtaking. As it is he can just ride off into the distance and not worry.
Laverty’s comments on the effect of losing one wing show just how aero dependant these bikes are becoming. I can see some mid season adjustment from Dorna regards power limits and aero, but still ensuring Ducati win the title

[Zarco]

Wouldn't he just ride past the pack on each straight?

[egor110]

Mr Dendrite said:

I agree, some great racing. I think if Rea had been on the front row the gap would have been smaller. The Ducati is clearly the most powerful bike and I also think it was designed to ride like a Moto gp bike.
This has allowed Bautista to adapt to it quickly but Davis and Laverty are getting there. It was interesting that Davis commented on Bautista’s earlier braking riding style.
I think if he hadn’t got the the advantages described above and was having to fight in the pack his riding style would be costing him in the overtaking. As it is he can just ride off into the distance and not worry.
Laverty’s comments on the effect of losing one wing show just how aero dependant these bikes are becoming. I can see some mid season adjustment from Dorna regards power limits and aero, but still ensuring Ducati win the title

coming together with reiterberger didn't do rea any favours either .

[lazybike]

That looks like a tight and twisty track and yet AB's still putting loads of time into them, anyone know exactly what it is that he does differently?

[obscene]

Years of MotoGP experience and being at one with the bike? That's my guess.

[Tam_Mullen]

lazybike said:

That looks like a tight and twisty track and yet AB's still putting loads of time into them, anyone know exactly what it is that he does differently?

Watching the practice pretty Bautista was around about half a second faster through the final sector than Rea/lowes etc. Section 4 is only the back straight and the final corner.

Also the commentators saying AB is braking earlier/carrying less corner speed so he can nail the corner exits and make the most on straights.

[Lindun]

lazybike said:

That looks like a tight and twisty track and yet AB's still putting loads of time into them, anyone know exactly what it is that he does differently?

Aragon is not a tight and twisty track. It’s a MotoGP track and as fast and flowing as you’re likely to see. The straight is flat out in top. It’s epic.

What he does is simple. Later and harder on the brakes, earlier and harder on the power, like most people who are winning races. He’s on the fastest bike which always helps too.

[egor110]

Tam_Mullen said:

lazybike said:

That looks like a tight and twisty track and yet AB's still putting loads of time into them, anyone know exactly what it is that he does differently?

Watching the practice pretty Bautista was around about half a second faster through the final sector than Rea/lowes etc. Section 4 is only the back straight and the final corner.

Also the commentators saying AB is braking earlier/carrying less corner speed so he can nail the corner exits and make the most on straights.

Pretty sure i've read a interview with davies saying the same thing , bautista is braking earlier not later .

Still good progress for chaz to be on the podium as well as Bautista.

[Tam_Mullen]

He definitely isn’t later and harder on the brakes. Rea was braking a good few metres later in Buriram!

[cherryowen]

A stunning performance from Bautista today

Winning by 16 secs over a 19 lap race?

Imperious, and it's shaping up to be like Doohan's dominance of the 1995 GP season

[egor110]

cherryowen said:

A stunning performance from Bautista today

Winning by 16 secs over a 19 lap race?

Imperious, and it's shaping up to be like Doohan's dominance of the 1995 GP season

be interesting if he's back in gp on a ducati next year .

[poo at Paul's]

egor110 said:

be interesting if he's back in gp on a ducati next year .

Would be interesting to see him on his WSB on the Pirellis up against the Moto GP bikes on their michelins!

[Turn7]

If Elav and Chas/Batty continue from today, the Duke will lose revs, no question.

Alex has clearly made good progress over the winter, which is good to see.

JR is still mega agressive and a delight to watch.

I think SMR may have a good package when the new motor arrives as well.

[Lindun]

cherryowen said:

A stunning performance from Bautista today

Winning by 16 secs over a 19 lap race?

Imperious, and it's shaping up to be like Doohan's dominance of the 1995 GP season

It’s WSB not 500GP.

Hasn’t Rea pretty much dominated every season since he’s been on the Kawasaki? Going further back Foggy / Hodgson / Bayliss on the Ducati

[moto_traxport]

egor110 said:

Tam_Mullen said:

lazybike said:

That looks like a tight and twisty track and yet AB's still putting loads of time into them, anyone know exactly what it is that he does differently?

Watching the practice pretty Bautista was around about half a second faster through the final sector than Rea/lowes etc. Section 4 is only the back straight and the final corner.

Also the commentators saying AB is braking earlier/carrying less corner speed so he can nail the corner exits and make the most on straights.

Pretty sure i've read a interview with davies saying the same thing , bautista is braking earlier not later .

Still good progress for chaz to be on the podium as well as Bautista.

As said above Aragon definitely not a tight track!

Bautista is riding awesomely at the moment and to the bike’s strength’s. Agreed that Chaz looks to me like he’s currently overriding it, braking too late and messing up getting on the power.

[lazybike]

Looking through the results from yesterday, the fastest bike was Davies's Ducati followed by Laverty's, then Haslam and Bautista with the same speed, there's 3 manufacturers covered by 5kmh, the BMW and the Honda are giving away 10kmh. It's weird that AB is braking earlier, he came from GP where late and hard trail braking is king, he may be letting the brake off earlier to up his corner/exit speed, but he's consistently 3kmh down on Davies through the speed trap.

Edited by lazybike on Sunday 7th April 08:31

[RemaL]

Really enjoyed the race , AB is impressive on the Duke.

[egor110]

That battle for the final 2 podium places was awesome , could watch them dicing all day .

[chunder27]

As usual damn good Supersport race.

Just Lord knows what happens in a few years when there are no bikes left, what can you do if there are no middleweight racing class bikes being made?