Helmet recommendation required
Helmet recommendation required
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Original Poster:

25,520 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Gents,

I know next to nothing about bikes so need some advice.

A friend just passed her bike licence here in UAE and is looking for a helmet. The ones she showed me don't look so great. I race and do trackdays on 4 wheels and having bounced off the barriers I'm pretty forthright when it comes to getting a decent lid. I said I would look into it but hoping you have some ready pointers.

Budget is £300 which is more of a guide for now. She will be doing trackdays and touring and wears glasses. Needs to be well ventilated, comfortable/light and performance orientated. Full face not flip up. Fewer graphics the better though If there's a Dovizioso rep going I've no doubt she'd take it.

Also, is there a bike version of HANS? What's recommended for track riding in terms of safety gear?


Krikkit

27,938 posts

212 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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MIPS is the HANS-equivalent really, although they're totally different.

Codswallop

5,260 posts

225 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Getting a decent fitting helmet is most important; go to a bike shop and try different brands and sizes. Different brands may fit certain head shapes better than others.

In the UK, SHARP is a good reference for safety of helmets. [url]https://sharp.dft.gov.uk//url]

Shoei Ryd is a 5 star full face lid. Comes in at her budget, and a quality make.

There are devices similar to HANS, but very few use them on the road. Mostly for motocross people and often called a Leatt brace. https://www.leatt.com/. Some claim that they reduce ability to do shoulder checks etc. Another possible alternative is some airbag vests or jackets inflate in an accident and try to immobilise the neck to reduce risk of injury.

LuS1fer

43,551 posts

276 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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I have had an HJC full face for about 4 years, it was reduced to about £250 in a sale.

What was key was lightness and comfort and ease of fitting and removal. No substitute for trying before buying.

Importantly, it also didn't make me look like an alien with an inflatable head.

Codswallop

5,260 posts

225 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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LuS1fer said:
Importantly, it also didn't make me look like an alien with an inflatable head.
hehe

Good point. Some brands/ models offer more shell sizes than others. Eg. if you have a medium head size, but the helmet model only comes in small and XL shell sizes, you'll end up with a bigger shell than you need (and the inflatable head look).

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Original Poster:

25,520 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Lol. My Stilo ST5 is XL and looks massive but that's not why I bought it.

She favours the HJC RPHA but the photo she sent me looks like it had a big big of plastic stuck whereas I am wary of anything which can be pushed through, or else weakens, the shell.

I have recommended a Shark Race R Pro based on what I read and that's also now on the shortlist apparently.

I also said to try them all on [I tried pretty much everything in Demon Tweeks before deciding!] but hard to do so in UAE. Will likely buy it via the UK for tax back but may have to take a flyer.

dibblecorse

7,649 posts

223 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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As you have said, she just needs to try as many as possible on as some companies make shells that fit and others don't, for instance I can wear 95% of what Shoei, AGV and X-Lite make but have never found a Arai or HJC that fits me, once she susses what helmets her head is suited to it all gets easier, I've had trackday crashes in lids from £500 Shoei XRs to £150 AGV K3's and the latter held up just as well.

neutral 3

8,666 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Arai or Shoie.

dibblecorse

7,649 posts

223 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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neutral 3 said:
Arai or Shoie.
Care to elaborate or just throwing brands out there?

shoestring7

6,196 posts

277 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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neutral 3 said:
Arai or Shoie.
Generally Shoei for a rounder head, Arai for a longer one. Shoei are a bit quieter and visor changing is easier. RYD (Ride, geddit) is an excellent basic helmet, but buying remotely is always a risk, especially as a good retailer will change cheek pads and centre pads to fine tune the fit.

SS7

dibblecorse

7,649 posts

223 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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shoestring7 said:
neutral 3 said:
Arai or Shoie.
Generally Shoei for a rounder head, Arai for a longer one. Shoei are a bit quieter and visor changing is easier. RYD (Ride, geddit) is an excellent basic helmet, but buying remotely is always a risk, especially as a good retailer will change cheek pads and centre pads to fine tune the fit.

SS7
Decent summary, also a Shoei head usually also translates to an AGV / X Lite head, I know that as my head is perfectly moon shaped .....

Krikkit

27,938 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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What about a Bell.. head... whistle

Chipchap

2,639 posts

228 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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OK here's my take on helmets. Skin regenerates mostly, bones heal mostly but your pip is the control centre for everything so never ever skimp on quality.

No one sets out to crash but it does happen.

What I would do is to search for quality products that are perhaps last years design or even the year before. Look at X-Lite Carbon Fibre X803 if she can stretch or X802 if she can find some.

Example here https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/...

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/...

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/...

AVOID ANY HELMET THAT IS CONSTRUCTED FROM POLY or PLASTICS. If you bounce they bounce too.

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Krikkit

27,938 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Chipchap said:
AVOID ANY HELMET THAT IS CONSTRUCTED FROM POLY or PLASTICS. If you bounce they bounce too.

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Carbon bounces too, it's plastic...

Freakuk

4,861 posts

182 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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As has been said it's all about fit, if it moves around it's useless. Also as others have mentioned skin and bones regenerates so the stuff in your head is the ECU and it's so compliant so I always invest heavily to protect my bonce!

Personally I'm an Arai guy, currently running an RX-7V, it's not the lightest or the quietest, but previously testing Arai's crash protection I'm happy/confident with my choice.

moanthebairns

19,176 posts

229 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Krikkit said:
Chipchap said:
AVOID ANY HELMET THAT IS CONSTRUCTED FROM POLY or PLASTICS. If you bounce they bounce too.

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Carbon bounces too, it's plastic...
Everything bounces provided there is enough energy to do so surely....

dibblecorse

7,649 posts

223 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Freakuk said:
As has been said it's all about fit, if it moves around it's useless. Also as others have mentioned skin and bones regenerates so the stuff in your head is the ECU and it's so compliant so I always invest heavily to protect my bonce!

Personally I'm an Arai guy, currently running an RX-7V, it's not the lightest or the quietest, but previously testing Arai's crash protection I'm happy/confident with my choice.
And you are FAHST .... smile

Dakkon

7,833 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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I have had AGV in the past, liked a lot, I currently have an x-lite carbon which is also nice.

You friends needs to go and try a few on, I don't have a Shoei shaped head

Freakuk

4,861 posts

182 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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dibblecorse said:
And you are FAHST .... smile
In my head I am, which I why I want to protect the illusion smile

CousinDupree

818 posts

98 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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The one that fits her the best