Investment Bikes
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poo at Paul's said:
Anything that 40 year olds fawned over growing up on bikes. So what was big in say late 90's early 2000's.
Blades, SRADs, R1s, even the 1st and 2nd gen Hinkley Triumphs
This /\Blades, SRADs, R1s, even the 1st and 2nd gen Hinkley Triumphs
Ride them don't hide them though. Having a conversation with a guy at work and his bike's done 11 miles since it's last MOT, which is the distance to the MOT station. Disgraceful.
This was my post on the same subject in a different forum:
Pretty much no. You should be comparing the new price to if you put those funds into a world tracker index fund, then subtract storage costs, maintenance, and ease of sale.
If it's a man maths investment though, where really you would be buying it even if it doesn't go up in value, then that's fair enough.
EDIT: just out of curiosity, I looked at an NC30 RRP and appreciation vs 3.66 percent return.
https://www.thebikemarket.co.uk/honda/vfr/vfr750r-...
RRP of NC30 in 1989 £8500.
Value now (went for the max value on this site) £27,750
£8500 invested over 30 years at 3.66% = £24,989.36
This ignores running costs, insurance, picking the right bike etc, and I've been optimistic in favour of the bike.
Pretty much no. You should be comparing the new price to if you put those funds into a world tracker index fund, then subtract storage costs, maintenance, and ease of sale.
If it's a man maths investment though, where really you would be buying it even if it doesn't go up in value, then that's fair enough.
EDIT: just out of curiosity, I looked at an NC30 RRP and appreciation vs 3.66 percent return.
https://www.thebikemarket.co.uk/honda/vfr/vfr750r-...
RRP of NC30 in 1989 £8500.
Value now (went for the max value on this site) £27,750
£8500 invested over 30 years at 3.66% = £24,989.36
This ignores running costs, insurance, picking the right bike etc, and I've been optimistic in favour of the bike.
Not major, but the Harley XR1200 and XR1200X
I paid £5500 for my 2009 HD XR1200 with exhaust/filter/tuner/luggage rack and >10k miles in 2014
the cheapest ones are now starting about £6500 with twice the mileage and no extras.
I don't see it as a major investment that will suddenly jump in value but its certainly not losing me any money!
I paid £5500 for my 2009 HD XR1200 with exhaust/filter/tuner/luggage rack and >10k miles in 2014
the cheapest ones are now starting about £6500 with twice the mileage and no extras.
I don't see it as a major investment that will suddenly jump in value but its certainly not losing me any money!
kingb said:
I have one of each - trying to sell the RSV and cant get any interest at all even at £1500!!
That's cheap for an RSV, they appear to be at the bottom end of their price range currently.I had an X Reg RSV last year, with decent service history, new everything, (tyres/clutch/Arrow exhaust, full service), mileage was circa 19,5000 (documented).
Got £2100 for it. (Paid £2000), the guy sold it on for £1950 the other week.
Surprised you aren't getting any bites at £1500.
Depends what level of 'investment' you want. If you just want something you won't lose much or any money on whilst enjoying, there's loads to choose from.
If you want something that will rise faster than inflation there's a few I'd imagine.
If you want something that will make you a fortune, you'll need to go far older than anything mentioned on this thread and you'll need a decent wedge to invest in the first place!
If you want something that will rise faster than inflation there's a few I'd imagine.
If you want something that will make you a fortune, you'll need to go far older than anything mentioned on this thread and you'll need a decent wedge to invest in the first place!
Dalmahoy said:
The two stroke boat has sailed over the horizon for mortals.
Really? You won't be able to spend more than 10 grand on a 90s 250 (which imho are the pinnacle of the 2 strokes) and you'll get an amazing bike for 5 grand, which isn't any more than people paid the equivalent of when new. The trend I've always noticed was that Bike "A" will 'go', money wise. Bike A will tend to be the ultimate incarnation of whatever that manufacturer is. It happened with Brough Superiors with the SS100, Vincents with the Black Shadow and Ducati with the 750ss.
Next the one that looks like it but isn't quite as expensive/desirable will go. Broughs; the 680. Vincents the Rapide. Ducati the 900ss.
Then the next along the line; Broughs the sidevalve bikes (SS80, 1150 etc), Vincents the Comet and Ducati the other bevel drive air cooled bikes.
You can also look at the more modern bikes and apply a similar trend. RC30, RC45, NC30, NC35 etc.
Using that logic and with 250 two-strokes having increased (but plateaud now) at 5-10 grand, I'd say the 125 two-strokes (Cagiva Mito, Aprilia RS125 etc) would be a reasonable bet. You won't make your fortune but you'll have a laugh and maybe make a grand or two over the next few years if you buy a really good, original bike.
Next the one that looks like it but isn't quite as expensive/desirable will go. Broughs; the 680. Vincents the Rapide. Ducati the 900ss.
Then the next along the line; Broughs the sidevalve bikes (SS80, 1150 etc), Vincents the Comet and Ducati the other bevel drive air cooled bikes.
You can also look at the more modern bikes and apply a similar trend. RC30, RC45, NC30, NC35 etc.
Using that logic and with 250 two-strokes having increased (but plateaud now) at 5-10 grand, I'd say the 125 two-strokes (Cagiva Mito, Aprilia RS125 etc) would be a reasonable bet. You won't make your fortune but you'll have a laugh and maybe make a grand or two over the next few years if you buy a really good, original bike.
There's a lot of bikes 'on sale' for 'xyz', but all the time they're on sale they aren't necessarily achieving it.
I know of 4 Tamburini F4's for sale at the moment from £33k-£38k, they've been up since last year and aren't selling. I don't think buyer appetite or means are matching the asking prices yet. When things are priced way in excess to current models with the latest everything it's sometimes a hard sell.
Interesting that when I bought my ZXR a couple of years back, traders were asking late 20's for an RC45, looked the other day, they're asking 45k!
I think a lot of bikes have gone to traders who are out gazumping eachother with eye watering prices thinking the bike market will go the way of cars, but stock is hanging around. Clearly they can afford to sit on them and I suspect they'll need to because there doesn't appear to be the numbers of buyers there are for cars of this ilk and it hasn't gone the way of the investment bubble that has gripped modern classic cars; Yet, at least.
I know of 4 Tamburini F4's for sale at the moment from £33k-£38k, they've been up since last year and aren't selling. I don't think buyer appetite or means are matching the asking prices yet. When things are priced way in excess to current models with the latest everything it's sometimes a hard sell.
Interesting that when I bought my ZXR a couple of years back, traders were asking late 20's for an RC45, looked the other day, they're asking 45k!
I think a lot of bikes have gone to traders who are out gazumping eachother with eye watering prices thinking the bike market will go the way of cars, but stock is hanging around. Clearly they can afford to sit on them and I suspect they'll need to because there doesn't appear to be the numbers of buyers there are for cars of this ilk and it hasn't gone the way of the investment bubble that has gripped modern classic cars; Yet, at least.
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