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My brother and I plan to ride to Monza in September to watch the F1 and the rough plan is; Thu/Friday ride there, Sat/Sun watch the F1, Mon/Tue ride home.
Given the above schedule, has anyone got any suggestions of routes and roads to take to best cover the distance without being deathly boring.
To cover the miles in the time allowed, there's definitely going to have to be some motorway and toll road riding involved but if there's any particularly good roads that we can incorporate en route to break up the journey and make it a bit more enjoyable, I'd appreciate your knowledge and ideas.
Cheers
My brother and I plan to ride to Monza in September to watch the F1 and the rough plan is; Thu/Friday ride there, Sat/Sun watch the F1, Mon/Tue ride home.
Given the above schedule, has anyone got any suggestions of routes and roads to take to best cover the distance without being deathly boring.
To cover the miles in the time allowed, there's definitely going to have to be some motorway and toll road riding involved but if there's any particularly good roads that we can incorporate en route to break up the journey and make it a bit more enjoyable, I'd appreciate your knowledge and ideas.
Cheers
'Fastest' route is 745mi each way, so not too far off the 400/day.
We did Magny Cours in a day, which was 498mi and admittedly pretty rough going (but not as bad as the ride home, through the night, avoiding both motorways and toll roads...don't ask
(but strangely remains one of the most enjoyable/memorable things I've ever done)), so we're realistic about how little 'fun' there may be opportunity for.
We did Magny Cours in a day, which was 498mi and admittedly pretty rough going (but not as bad as the ride home, through the night, avoiding both motorways and toll roads...don't ask
(but strangely remains one of the most enjoyable/memorable things I've ever done)), so we're realistic about how little 'fun' there may be opportunity for. Being honest, I think it's a terrible idea.
Two days motorway slog on a bike to get there, two days not riding while you watch cars, two days motorway slog to get back.
Hardly exciting, is it...?
Even if you could add a couple of days on at each side it would become a bit more fun, but as it is, I don't envy you.
Two days motorway slog on a bike to get there, two days not riding while you watch cars, two days motorway slog to get back.
Hardly exciting, is it...?
Even if you could add a couple of days on at each side it would become a bit more fun, but as it is, I don't envy you.
There is the possibility of getting on the road Wednesday night and eating up a few miles and I suppose there’s no real reason we can’t do the same on the Sunday evening, on the way home.
Part of me does quite like the challenge of long days and lots of miles but some good roads and scenery would definitely be a bonus.
As for the F1, I’m not the biggest fan but it’s one to tick off the list and Monza has got to be as good a place as any to do it!
Part of me does quite like the challenge of long days and lots of miles but some good roads and scenery would definitely be a bonus.
As for the F1, I’m not the biggest fan but it’s one to tick off the list and Monza has got to be as good a place as any to do it!
Plenty of decent routes, bump out the first bit via autoroute down to Lyon then you’ve got some fine roads to get over to Monza, I’d go Grenoble, briancon going (col de lauteret through La grave ) head over the border to Turin than Milan.
On the way back go Lugano , Lucerne, colmar, through the vosges and back home
On the way back go Lugano , Lucerne, colmar, through the vosges and back home
Andybow said:
Plenty of decent routes, bump out the first bit via autoroute down to Lyon then you’ve got some fine roads to get over to Monza, I’d go Grenoble, briancon going (col de lauteret through La grave ) head over the border to Turin than Milan.
On the way back go Lugano , Lucerne, colmar, through the vosges and back home
Can be done and these are the sorts of routes I'd take. Not too hard if you don't mind crunching the miles on the French motorways. It'll be a long trip and you really don't want bad weather but OK on the right bikes.On the way back go Lugano , Lucerne, colmar, through the vosges and back home
black-k1 said:
Andybow said:
Plenty of decent routes, bump out the first bit via autoroute down to Lyon then you’ve got some fine roads to get over to Monza, I’d go Grenoble, briancon going (col de lauteret through La grave ) head over the border to Turin than Milan.
On the way back go Lugano , Lucerne, colmar, through the vosges and back home
Can be done and these are the sorts of routes I'd take. Not too hard if you don't mind crunching the miles on the French motorways. It'll be a long trip and you really don't want bad weather but OK on the right bikes.On the way back go Lugano , Lucerne, colmar, through the vosges and back home
We have just come back from a two week tour.
Made it as far down as Rimini(not recommended)in Italy, we also went to Tavullia,(reccomended)i would have regretted it if I hadn't.
Went up th Lake Garda where we met two couple's our age(60+) from Bridlington who had ridden down on scooters
We had stops in Northern France and the French side of the Alps to get to Rimini.
We made our way back through the Alps and along the French Med.
Running from Northern France to the French Alps was at 100 to 110 it's just so big!
The Alps really are awesome.
I would recommend a big comfy car to be honest.
And I recieved my hopefully only speeding ticket in the post last week.
Made it as far down as Rimini(not recommended)in Italy, we also went to Tavullia,(reccomended)i would have regretted it if I hadn't.
Went up th Lake Garda where we met two couple's our age(60+) from Bridlington who had ridden down on scooters
We had stops in Northern France and the French side of the Alps to get to Rimini.
We made our way back through the Alps and along the French Med.
Running from Northern France to the French Alps was at 100 to 110 it's just so big!
The Alps really are awesome.
I would recommend a big comfy car to be honest.
And I recieved my hopefully only speeding ticket in the post last week.
roboxm3 said:
Andybow said:
We’re doing mugello next year from Santander we’ve got 5 days to get there and will stay off motorways all the time.
That’s the plan for us next year!I did Mugello in 2017 and definitely want to get one more in before Rossi hangs up his leathers...
roboxm3 said:
That’s the plan for us next year!
I did Mugello in 2017 and definitely want to get one more in before Rossi hangs up his leathers...
Never been to mugello and same as you want to see Rossi’s last hurrah.I did Mugello in 2017 and definitely want to get one more in before Rossi hangs up his leathers...
Think we’ve got 10 days, ferry to Bilbao or Santander 5 days to mugello, just sat night and race day and make our way back in 3 days
roboxm3 said:
Aprilia RSV and a Ducati 1098...did I say that I liked the challenge
Perfect choice! 
Just watch the distance between some of the services on the French Autoroutes as you don't want to be stuck on the side of the road with no petrol.
Also, remember that "big mile" days only happen with good average speeds. Stopping for petrol, leg stretch, Mars bars etc. all kill your average speed. Not stopping is how lorries restrict to 56mph can still cover big distances.
Rubin215 said:
black-k1 said:
Not stopping is how lorries restrict to 56mph can still cover big distances.
A 400 litre tank also helps...Bearing in mind of course, that a driving day of 9 hours at 56mph (real life average much less) only means 450-500 miles maximum in a day.
Big distance days are a result of good average speeds. Lorries, which don't have high top speeds manage big distances by having a large fuel tank so not having to stop for fuel. Bikes don't have that luxury, so have to make sure they do as few stops as possible and make those stops as quick as possible.
black-k1 said:
I'm struggling to understand your point.
Big distance days are a result of good average speeds. Lorries, which don't have high top speeds manage big distances by having a large fuel tank so not having to stop for fuel. Bikes don't have that luxury, so have to make sure they do as few stops as possible and make those stops as quick as possible.
If it’s hot or it’s sBig distance days are a result of good average speeds. Lorries, which don't have high top speeds manage big distances by having a large fuel tank so not having to stop for fuel. Bikes don't have that luxury, so have to make sure they do as few stops as possible and make those stops as quick as possible.
t weather it’s really difficult to keep your average speed up as you need constant stops to (cool down, drink or warm up) 400 miles can quickly become unattainable.Lorries are annoying, we did a motorway day where we were cruising quickly but had to stop multiple times as it was so hot one year, we stopped near Reims and the same lorry we had passed 10 times stopped with us!
So stopping for anytime really kills distance
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