Bike Stand / Lift - Bursig / Warrior / Abba ?

[V8RX7]

Can anyone give their feedback on bike stands / lifts ?

The search has found a few older threads.

For the price of the basic abba with the laughably priced front lift arm, I may as well buy a Warrior Spider

Is there something I'm missing / something else to consider ?

Generally it's just for cleaning / fiddling but for a bit more if it means I can do fork seal changes etc or lift it higher for ease.

[Cylon2007]

For general cleaning I use front and rear paddock stands, for work where I need the bike to be more stable I use an ABBA stand (which I highly reommend) . I DO NOT have their front lift as like you I think it's stupidly priced, I have a couple of old car scissor jacks and use one of those if I want to lift the front.

[rigga]

Paddock stands again here for general cleaning, used to have a eazy riser stand years back, was a great bit of kit.
https://on-bike.com/

[doggydog33]

I used to have a constand jack stand and a 1Jac. Both were used to store the bikes on, wheel them around the garage and outside on a block-paved drive for washing.

The constand would fold down so it would fit in the back of a car to take to track days. It fitted the bike a treat very easy set up.
When I wanted to put a different bike on it, the adapter kit sent fitted their old type of stand. They were happy for me to send it back at my cost for a replacement (to Germany). The cost of postage would've been almost as much as the kit so i didn't bother.

The 1Jac is 'meatier' than the constand, they're a British company so I found they were easier to get other adapter kits from. It doesn't fold though and the setting up was a little bit harder, it needed adjustment to fit the bike rather than just 'working'.

Regards, Doggydog33

[Krikkit]

rigga said:

Paddock stands again here for general cleaning, used to have a eazy riser stand years back, was a great bit of kit.
https://on-bike.com/

That looks really good, but pretty spendy.

Personally I use a paddock stand, if I wanted to do fork changes I'd buy a headstock one. Oh, and an offcut of some nice squishy carpet to kneel on while I'm working on/cleaning it.

[V8RX7]

Krikkit said:

rigga said:

Paddock stands again here for general cleaning, used to have a eazy riser stand years back, was a great bit of kit.
https://on-bike.com/

That looks really good, but pretty spendy.

Personally I use a paddock stand, if I wanted to do fork changes I'd buy a headstock one. Oh, and an offcut of some nice squishy carpet to kneel on while I'm working on/cleaning it.

I can't use the under bike ones on my 690 - exhaust collector box is underneath

By the time I've bought a paddock and headstock stand I'm at the price of an Abba

[BobSaunders]

Paddock stands for cleaning on the driveway or over the summer.

Abba stand + moto glide kit for when packing it away for winter. On occasion i need to shift it around the garage for whatever reason. Useful more than anything.

[NITO]

The Bursig looks good value as it gives you some height.

Personally, I have Harris front/rear paddock stands for general chain cleaning and storage. I also have an Abba stand with front lift for chain/sprocket changes, fork servicing/pad/caliper changes and the like. I'd like to get a moto glide for it, to make it manoeuvrable.

The piece de resistance however is the Abba Skylift which is a fantastic although expensive piece of kit. I use this the most, for anything other than plain storing (although it gets used for that too!), if the bike is having maintenance done on it or deep cleaning, up it goes!



It can be used on any of my bikes which is great. It's more a substitute for a workbench but takes up a lot less space and is extremely versatile. I'd have a bench too given half a chance and if I had the space lol but then I do all my own work on the bikes!

[Catnapper]

I have one from this company. Lifts the front too.
Only thing I've found is it is a heavy lump.
http://shop.becker-technik.de/en/home/8-motorbike-...

[V8RX7]

Catnapper said:

I have one from this company. Lifts the front too.
Only thing I've found is it is a heavy lump.
http://shop.becker-technik.de/en/home/8-motorbike-...

That looks good - like a prettier version of the abba with the better designed lift arm, for less.

[CousinDupree]

Cylon2007 said:

For general cleaning I use front and rear paddock stands, for work where I need the bike to be more stable I use an ABBA stand (which I highly reommend) . I DO NOT have their front lift as like you I think it's stupidly priced, I have a couple of old car scissor jacks and use one of those if I want to lift the front.

This. The Abba stand is pricey, especially given the rip-off fitting kits, if you have several bikes. But they are great. You will still need other stands for certain jobs ,like removing a swingarm, unless you have a center stand.

If you are frequently doing work on bikes, get a bench on wheels. There is no substitute and they don't take up that much space, if you park a bike on one.

[podman]

CousinDupree said:

Cylon2007 said:

For general cleaning I use front and rear paddock stands, for work where I need the bike to be more stable I use an ABBA stand (which I highly reommend) . I DO NOT have their front lift as like you I think it's stupidly priced, I have a couple of old car scissor jacks and use one of those if I want to lift the front.

This. The Abba stand is pricey, especially given the rip-off fitting kits, if you have several bikes. But they are great. You will still need other stands for certain jobs ,like removing a swingarm, unless you have a center stand.

If you are frequently doing work on bikes, get a bench on wheels. There is no substitute and they don't take up that much space, if you park a bike on one.

I purchased a Abba Skylift from the NEC show back in November, paid £400 for the lift and the fitting kits where £15 each, 2 of the bikes take the same fitting kit..Outside the NEC, list is around £437 for the lift and £25 for the fitting kits.

With the swingarm removal kit(£15) dont need any other stand to remove the swingarm or strip the whole bike with any Abba stand.

The stand is the same price as a ramp, which in my single garage is too bulky ad would be a bit of a trip hazard, I can easily push the whole bike into the corner with the Skylift. I also find the ability to lift either the front or rear end up high useful..

The Bursig is a similar design but it only lifts the bike in 1 or 2 positions I believe and you need to remove the swingarm spindle and add in their adaptors, which I guess you wouldnt do often but if you change your bikes frequently, could be a faff and expensive?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7PExjCtC9Y

[V8RX7]

Catnapper said:

http://shop.becker-technik.de/en/home/8-motorbike-...

I think this is the "winner" any comments ?

I like the way he uses sockets as adaptors

[Simes205]

BobSaunders said:

Paddock stands for cleaning on the driveway or over the summer.

Abba stand + moto glide kit for when packing it away for winter. On occasion i need to shift it around the garage for whatever reason. Useful more than anything.

Is the motoglide good?
I’m considering it to allow more flexibility mid job. Spelt move my bike around when it’s in pieces!!

[S2r]

The Ducati has front and rear paddock stands for general 'parked' duties and an Abba stand when the front end needed some work - I used a jack / axle stands under the front of the engine as it was somewhat cheaper than their front lift kit !

I am impressed with the Abba stand but I think it's quite a lots for what it is - I bought mine off Facebook for £30 or so, so it was a bit of a no-brainer !

Edited by S2r on Monday 3rd February 19:23

[Dakkon]

I just have paddock stands for general cleaning and maintenance, if it requires anything more then it is beyond my feeble mechanical skills anyway, so a garage will do it.

[blade7]

I bought a Warrior stand 6 or 7 years ago, it's a copy of the Bursig for a lot less money, and it had a hydraulic damper for lowering the bike. There were rumours they are made by the same company in China. Mine even came with a Bursig sticker on it...

Edited by blade7 on Tuesday 4th February 15:08

[Catnapper]

V8RX7 said:

I think this is the "winner" any comments ?

I like the way he uses sockets as adaptors

My mates a machinist so he made an adapter up for me on the other side. Since then I guess you could use a hex key socket too

[Krikkit]

blade7 said:

I bought a Warrior stand 6 or 7 years ago, it's a copy of the Bursig for a lot less money, and it had a hydraulic damper for lowering the bike. There were rumours they are made by the same company in China. Mine even came with a Bursig sticker on it...

That does look rather good... Probably a stupid question, but what holds the bike to the stand with this type of stand?

[V8RX7]

Krikkit said:

That does look rather good... Probably a stupid question, but what holds the bike to the stand with this type of stand?

Similar to the Abba etc except it's one sided, one pin through the swingarm hole and another pin nearby to prevent rotation