All Triumph production moves to Thailand
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I knew the twins were built there, didn't know about everyting else.
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/triumph-produc...
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/triumph-produc...
ianrb said:
I knew the twins were built there, didn't know about everyting else.
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/triumph-produc...
According to the article it means they're going to make 2000 less bikes in the UK. I am more surprised they only currently make 6,500 out of the total 65,000 in the UK.https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/triumph-produc...
But it looks like this was the plan all along.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1575502/trium...
First factory in Thailand was built in 2002 then another in 2006 and another in 2007 with total capacity to make 80,000.
Sounds more like globalisation than brexit.
Ed. said:
According to the article it means they're going to make 2000 less bikes in the UK. I am more surprised they only currently make 6,500 out of the total 65,000 in the UK.
But it looks like this was the plan all along.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1575502/trium...
First factory in Thailand was built in 2002 then another in 2006 and another in 2007 with total capacity to make 80,000.
Sounds more like globalisation than brexit.
Quite right. Clearly the UK is not their core market. Asia is. Why do people always bring Brexit into it? That said, it feels disappointing emotionally. But it looks like this was the plan all along.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1575502/trium...
First factory in Thailand was built in 2002 then another in 2006 and another in 2007 with total capacity to make 80,000.
Sounds more like globalisation than brexit.
Obviously it would be great if it were viable to produce in the U.K. but the Triumph bikes are pretty mid market and their competitors will be employing similar tactics to win as many sales as possible. As someone else said, Asia may well be the best place to be if it’s the biggest market. If the R&D and other key work is lead from the U.K. they can continue building great but accessible bikes.
Rubin215 said:
Brexit innit.
Going to be a lot cheaper to sell bikes to the rest of the world if you're not getting f
ked by Boris's deal-debacle.
Thailand only has bilateral trade deals with Australia, India, Japan, New Zealand, Peru and Chile. Everything else will be done via WTO tariffs.Going to be a lot cheaper to sell bikes to the rest of the world if you're not getting f
ked by Boris's deal-debacle.The UK has free trade agreements already in place (coming into force in 2021) with Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama, Chile, Denmark (Faroe Islands), ESA (Trade Bloc) (Eastern and Southern African Nations), Georgia, Iceland and Norway, Israel, Jordan, Kosovo, Lebanon, Liechtenstein, Morocco, Palestinian Authority, Pacific States (Papa New Guinea & Fiji), Southern Africa Customs Union and Mozambique (SACUM) trade bloc, South Korea, Switzerland, Tunisia plus mutual recognition agreements with Australia, New Zealand, United States and Japan.
It will most likely be cheap labour and cheap factory premises.
NS400R said:
Ed. said:
According to the article it means they're going to make 2000 less bikes in the UK. I am more surprised they only currently make 6,500 out of the total 65,000 in the UK.
But it looks like this was the plan all along.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1575502/trium...
First factory in Thailand was built in 2002 then another in 2006 and another in 2007 with total capacity to make 80,000.
Sounds more like globalisation than brexit.
Quite right. Clearly the UK is not their core market. Asia is. Why do people always bring Brexit into it? That said, it feels disappointing emotionally. But it looks like this was the plan all along.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1575502/trium...
First factory in Thailand was built in 2002 then another in 2006 and another in 2007 with total capacity to make 80,000.
Sounds more like globalisation than brexit.
Stuart Fordyce said:
I'm not going to laugh if it means job losses, but some of the most jingoistic Brexiters I've come across ride Triumphs because "British" and have their bikes covered in Union Flags... which is really ironic.
Where does Brexit come into this you absolute knacker??They are going to lose a small amount of unskilled assembly jobs but crank up R&D investments which results in an increased number of skilled jobs. Regardless of where it’s made, the real engineering work within the bike is still British. What do you ride?
anonymous said:
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Lots of galvanic corrosion on a basically new bike. The clutch sounded like a dry one and made the bike sound and more importantly to me feel like it was broken.I also didn’t appreciate the cheap hose fittings and general clumsy packaging of the wiring and plumbing. If you looked past the veneer of the high end 3rd party parts bolted to it it looked and felt like a really cheap bike to me.
I found it a significant step back in all regards from a 2004 Gsxr 750.
WarnieV6GT said:
CaptainSlow said:
Because they are bell ends that are disappointed that project fear has turned out to be a damp squib, indeed the UK is out performing its nearest competitors.
We ain't left yet. Nothing has changed.
When the WA came into affect, nothing happened
And when we finally seperate, nothing will happen
There's a pattern forming.
If you have had anything to do with manufacturing of any kind this has been happening to you for 20 years.
I am staggered Triumph have not done it sooner, their margins must be immense if they have been able to continue making stuff at volume in this country.
I expect they were getting big benefits form UK government and heavy relief on tax for buildings.
Sad to see, but if they want to stay in business all other manufacturers at that volume do it ad have done it, just dont expect the quality to be as good initially. It never is.
I am staggered Triumph have not done it sooner, their margins must be immense if they have been able to continue making stuff at volume in this country.
I expect they were getting big benefits form UK government and heavy relief on tax for buildings.
Sad to see, but if they want to stay in business all other manufacturers at that volume do it ad have done it, just dont expect the quality to be as good initially. It never is.
Jag_NE said:
Where does Brexit come into this you absolute knacker??
They are going to lose a small amount of unskilled assembly jobs but crank up R&D investments which results in an increased number of skilled jobs. Regardless of where it’s made, the real engineering work within the bike is still British. What do you ride?
I ride a Yamaha...and for myself I don't care where my bikes are made. I'm commenting on one or two people who I know and don't like, who would go ape if they learned their 'British' bike was made overseas...and generally have a 'If it's not British it's sThey are going to lose a small amount of unskilled assembly jobs but crank up R&D investments which results in an increased number of skilled jobs. Regardless of where it’s made, the real engineering work within the bike is still British. What do you ride?
te' attitude to everything. It amuses me a little. Are you usually this excitable?
If you visit the factory , the onsite cafe or take the factory tour, it demonstrates and shows how much volume and bikes are built abroad,
during our tour, the chaps where quite open that the UK is the most expensive place to build a bike so its no surprise, tbh, if it brings down the price of a speed triple to BMW levels, id be more inclined to buy one.
during our tour, the chaps where quite open that the UK is the most expensive place to build a bike so its no surprise, tbh, if it brings down the price of a speed triple to BMW levels, id be more inclined to buy one.
Does anyone know what their sales volumes into, say, the seven continents are? I'd be surprised if they sold much volume of their current range into this nebulous and magical "Asia", much less Thailand. So moving production to where the sales are doesn't quite add up. I'd imagine there are some sweet, sweet incentives from the Thai government coming Triumphs way!
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