How much to have a loom made?

[gareth h]

I bought this to restore a few weeks ago, i’m Comfortable with the mechanicals but the loom has been chopped about with lots of crimped connectors and electrics are the work of the devil, any idea on the cost of having it retired?

[roboxm3]

https://rupesrewires.com/loom-replacement/

Helpful??

[gareth h]

Thanks, looks a bigger job than I thought! Perhaps I’ll read a couple of those books that I should have read at college (40 years ago!) and give it a go myself.

[Jazoli]

There's rupes as mentioned who has been writing for most of the mainstream bike mags for years or Ferrets Electrikery http://www.motorcyclewiring.co.uk/home-page

[Benni]

I can´t really see the exact type and have to guess the year & country, but cmsnl are selling one Honda loop :

https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-xl500r-1982-c-belgium_...

browse their page for different types of year and country.

[gareth h]

Benni said:

I can´t really see the exact type and have to guess the year & country, but cmsnl are selling one Honda loop :

https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-xl500r-1982-c-belgium_...

browse their page for different types of year and country.

Brilliant! Thanks, it’s an 84 XL600R

[dave144]

I have a t595 daytona that I'm converting to a caferacer and there's a guy local to me who builds wiring looms for aircraft and race cars. He is re-routing and sorting out the loom for a couple of hundred pounds. Another friend is building a classic martek / Harris race bike and he was quoted £1200 for a one off loom with cad drawings etc.

[Sidecar Man]

Our F2 sidecar loom was 3k

[Krikkit]

If the loom isn't too chopped up it should be pretty straight-forward to unpick the insulation and repair the chopped bits - crimp and heatshrink them and you should be good as a permanent repair. Rewrap afterwards and away you go.

Could also be worth getting new connectors on there if it's a few looking a bit tatty.

[Benni]

Owner´s manual with wiring diagram can be found here :

http://www.hondaxl.it/download/Manuali/XL600R_hond...

Proper old school Honda style, that´s half a workshop manual, with tools, torques and drawings.

I was idling today so looked around the bay, seems no one in UK is selling a loom but several from Germany and Austria :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_t...

Edited by Benni on Monday 23 March 17:18

[tvrolet]

I made up a loom from scratch for a car, and part looms for various bikes. All this without a proper electronics/electrical background, but after a while I found it quite satisfying and mildly therapeutic - you could do worse in these troubled times.

The only real 'skill' is learning to tin/solder properly so you don't just rely on crimped connections everywhere, although in fairness there's nothing wrong with crimping, I just like things soldered to connections and then crimp - belt and braces and all that. But most importantly use the proper stuff (and tools). That means none of these connector blocks with screws, and don't wrap the loom in insulating tape as it'll just end up a sticky mess, use the correct loom tape and heat shrink as appropriate. And use the 'correct' wire colours. Also useful to have a wooden board or bench that you can put screws/nails/cable ties/connectors on to lay the loom (or part loom) out as you're making it up, plus cable ties as temporary holders to keep things together before wrapping.

You can get everything from Vehicle Wiring Products (www.vehiclewiringproducts.co.uk) including wire in relatively short lengths and in certainly all the colours I needed. No connection with them, but they were able to supply everything I needed off their web site. Other suppliers are no doubt available.

[Stevemr]

With the existing loom as a pattern and the wiring diagram. Should not be to hard to make a new one. It’s a simple enough bike.
For the wire go to a scrapyard and pick up an old car loom for next to nothing. Will give you all the wire you will need!
Great bike by the way, used to have one loads of torquey thumps fun!