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How you fit depends on model I guess. MV are not particularly different in physical size to competitor bikes. You can compare exact riding position between models of bike on this site here: https://cycle-ergo.com/
All MVs are rare low volume bikes, you dont generally get the used choice you do with more mainstream bikes. Ducati are a much more mainstream volume seller.
Data from howmanyleft; around 70 Brutale 1090 series sold in UK. Less than 400 total F4 series bikes registered to date since the 750 came out 20 years ago. Less than 200 F3 800 in the country.
You may have to try a dealer, some are doing sale or return anyway for private sellers. Bennets MV at Barnsley always have a good throughput of used bikes.
Mvagusta.net forum occasionally has bikes for sale in UK
All MVs are rare low volume bikes, you dont generally get the used choice you do with more mainstream bikes. Ducati are a much more mainstream volume seller.
Data from howmanyleft; around 70 Brutale 1090 series sold in UK. Less than 400 total F4 series bikes registered to date since the 750 came out 20 years ago. Less than 200 F3 800 in the country.
You may have to try a dealer, some are doing sale or return anyway for private sellers. Bennets MV at Barnsley always have a good throughput of used bikes.
Mvagusta.net forum occasionally has bikes for sale in UK
I'm 6ft.... 105kg....
You might find an F3 a bit small for you along with the Dragster. I find the F4 far more comfortable size wise, but it'll kill your back and wrists :-)
I've had an F4 750, F3 675, Dragster 800RR and now have an F4 RR.
As mentioned before, these are very niche bikes. Not many around but hold their value. The new Brutale's 1000RR's are just stunning and over 200bhp on a naked! The dragster with 155bhp was mental so these must be even more mental..... and beautiful!!!!
You might find an F3 a bit small for you along with the Dragster. I find the F4 far more comfortable size wise, but it'll kill your back and wrists :-)
I've had an F4 750, F3 675, Dragster 800RR and now have an F4 RR.
As mentioned before, these are very niche bikes. Not many around but hold their value. The new Brutale's 1000RR's are just stunning and over 200bhp on a naked! The dragster with 155bhp was mental so these must be even more mental..... and beautiful!!!!
I was 55 and a fatty when we toured 8 days in Pyrenees on my MV F4 312RR single seater and 57 and still fat when we toured 12 days in Portugal on my F4RR. So they are not uncomfortable.
The 1078cc F4 312RR Was a much better bike in my opinion than my F4RR as evidenced by me keeping the older bike almost 10yrs and the newer bike less than 6 months.
The 1078cc F4 312RR Was a much better bike in my opinion than my F4RR as evidenced by me keeping the older bike almost 10yrs and the newer bike less than 6 months.
A big question on MVs is dealer support and service. I think they all need more setup and a reasonable amount of tweaking/adjustment - compared to other bikes - to get running well. I had a Brutale Corse with full Arrows Ti system which was the so-called epitome of their 1078cc nakeds and it was, on reflection, not that special imho. Pretty bike but I did not gel with it.
In comparison, Ducatis are a generally more resolved motorbike, are better understood and tested more, and have significantly greater network backup should anything go wrong.
In comparison, Ducatis are a generally more resolved motorbike, are better understood and tested more, and have significantly greater network backup should anything go wrong.
spareparts said:
A big question on MVs is dealer support and service. I think they all need more setup and a reasonable amount of tweaking/adjustment - compared to other bikes - to get running well. I had a Brutale Corse with full Arrows Ti system which was the so-called epitome of their 1078cc nakeds and it was, on reflection, not that special imho. Pretty bike but I did not gel with it.
In comparison, Ducatis are a generally more resolved motorbike, are better understood and tested more, and have significantly greater network backup should anything go wrong.
Dealer support and service is much better now.... as is parts supply since the russians bought it up!!In comparison, Ducatis are a generally more resolved motorbike, are better understood and tested more, and have significantly greater network backup should anything go wrong.
Never had any issue with dealer support, and parts supply is within days from UK or direct from Italy. Due to the low numbers of bikes sold, there are not so many specialists around though that know what they are doing with them, you may need to travel further. Its not like buying a Honda (or even Ducati) where every major town or city seems to have a dealer.
I think MV are much better "out of the box" than they used to be, at least in my experience over the last 5 years. Ive test ridden a few of the newer models and been impressed, I plan to buy another when im ready to upgrade i.e. waited for the new model I want to depreciate for a few years
I think MV are much better "out of the box" than they used to be, at least in my experience over the last 5 years. Ive test ridden a few of the newer models and been impressed, I plan to buy another when im ready to upgrade i.e. waited for the new model I want to depreciate for a few years
If you don't mind the possibility of buying abroad Mobile.de has 428 MVs for sale. Buying in Germany and exporting it to the UK carries with it a certain level of bureaucracy both in Germany and the UK - I'm currently going through the process of importing a BMW K1 from Germany to Andorra, but I had a thread up here with good advice on how to do the import into the UK.
The dealer woes are gone these days, but they are not common.
The main problem bikes you see these day’s are where people have issues with bikes with “FSH” and it has been serviced by the local bike dealer just to sell on. They really do need someone who knows what they are doing.
Some will tell me I’m wrong and it’s just a bike etc and most of the mechanicals are normal, but the bit where people will have issues are invariably down to lack of specialist knowledge.
Compared to Ducati’s though the Duc’s feel much more solid although I did have a good few niggles with my 821 and today my brand new 1200S is having idling issues.
On the comfort front the Triples are small and the older IL4’s big, or at least for me. 5’ 7”
They are cracking bikes though and whilst I love my Duc, there is nothing like being on an MV. I’ve had my F3 675 since new and it’s only let me down once (due to a well known “race specialist” who totally fooked putting in a slipper clutch, almost causing me to come off and lunching my engine).
Check out the MV Agusta Owners Club UK Facebook group. It’s about as close to an owners club in the UK. Good knowledge and the dealers are on there.
The main problem bikes you see these day’s are where people have issues with bikes with “FSH” and it has been serviced by the local bike dealer just to sell on. They really do need someone who knows what they are doing.
Some will tell me I’m wrong and it’s just a bike etc and most of the mechanicals are normal, but the bit where people will have issues are invariably down to lack of specialist knowledge.
Compared to Ducati’s though the Duc’s feel much more solid although I did have a good few niggles with my 821 and today my brand new 1200S is having idling issues.
On the comfort front the Triples are small and the older IL4’s big, or at least for me. 5’ 7”
They are cracking bikes though and whilst I love my Duc, there is nothing like being on an MV. I’ve had my F3 675 since new and it’s only let me down once (due to a well known “race specialist” who totally fooked putting in a slipper clutch, almost causing me to come off and lunching my engine).
Check out the MV Agusta Owners Club UK Facebook group. It’s about as close to an owners club in the UK. Good knowledge and the dealers are on there.
Thank you for all your comments. I think my first choise would be a F3 675 or 800 post 2015 (I understand there was an update then) but also consider the Turismo Veloce for being on the more practical side but still relatively light in the class and with tasteful details.
I appreciate the comparisons with Ducatis which I agree that they are not bad at all. But the V4 is just over the top in terms of performance and the V2 is like my 5yr old 899 that had under seat heat issues and really not working in London. I've run an 821 for 6 months and was more practical but not special.
I appreciate the comparisons with Ducatis which I agree that they are not bad at all. But the V4 is just over the top in terms of performance and the V2 is like my 5yr old 899 that had under seat heat issues and really not working in London. I've run an 821 for 6 months and was more practical but not special.
Chipchap said:
I was 55 and a fatty when we toured 8 days in Pyrenees on my MV F4 312RR single seater and 57 and still fat when we toured 12 days in Portugal on my F4RR. So they are not uncomfortable.
The 1078cc F4 312RR Was a much better bike in my opinion than my F4RR as evidenced by me keeping the older bike almost 10yrs and the newer bike less than 6 months.
What made the 312 better than the RR? I thought with the F4s evolved fairly considerably over the years so you would want to get the newest version you couldThe 1078cc F4 312RR Was a much better bike in my opinion than my F4RR as evidenced by me keeping the older bike almost 10yrs and the newer bike less than 6 months.
Where in the country are you? I’m in the South East but bought mine from Bennett’s in Barnsley and had it delivered, great guys.
Never had any difficulties with parts, my closest dealer is Alf’s in Worthing and anything I’ve needed (tidying up, so heel guard, change a few screws etc) has come in a few days. They seem much improved in this area.
As for ergonomics, I’m a normal 5’ 10” and the triple Brutales fit just fine. I don’t know how much difference an extra few inches (oooh err) would make. The Tourism Veloce is more spacious. The F3s are small... Cycle ergo is a great starting point to compare to whatever you ride now/have in the past. But really only a sit on them/ride will help, and that means a dealer I guess...
If you’re looking at the F3s I’d look at an 800, but that’s very personal. More torque, less revvy but ultimately more top end power too. Will feel lass frantic after your twins...
I wouldn’t worry about the transition from a Duc. I’ve only had one Ducati, but assuming you’re close-ish to a good dealer (‘how’ close is acceptable is obviously subjective) then I’ve found the ownership experience actually easier. No reliability issues, smoother engine giving less heat off...
As above, they’re niche so you may need to travel to see one you want. Buying from a good reputable dealer would be well worth it over a private sale, imho. MV Agusta Owners on Facebook is good. Additionally the forums on mvagusta.net are a good source of info, albeit American centric...
I have no regrets.
Never had any difficulties with parts, my closest dealer is Alf’s in Worthing and anything I’ve needed (tidying up, so heel guard, change a few screws etc) has come in a few days. They seem much improved in this area.
As for ergonomics, I’m a normal 5’ 10” and the triple Brutales fit just fine. I don’t know how much difference an extra few inches (oooh err) would make. The Tourism Veloce is more spacious. The F3s are small... Cycle ergo is a great starting point to compare to whatever you ride now/have in the past. But really only a sit on them/ride will help, and that means a dealer I guess...
If you’re looking at the F3s I’d look at an 800, but that’s very personal. More torque, less revvy but ultimately more top end power too. Will feel lass frantic after your twins...
I wouldn’t worry about the transition from a Duc. I’ve only had one Ducati, but assuming you’re close-ish to a good dealer (‘how’ close is acceptable is obviously subjective) then I’ve found the ownership experience actually easier. No reliability issues, smoother engine giving less heat off...
As above, they’re niche so you may need to travel to see one you want. Buying from a good reputable dealer would be well worth it over a private sale, imho. MV Agusta Owners on Facebook is good. Additionally the forums on mvagusta.net are a good source of info, albeit American centric...
I have no regrets.
2ndclasscitizen said:
What made the 312 better than the RR? I thought with the F4s evolved fairly considerably over the years so you would want to get the newest version you could
My F4 312RR had evolved a lot over its 9yrs 6 months in my ownership. It had Front Fork cartridges, Ohlins rear shock, ECU Upgrade, Titanium Exhaust etc. So it had been tailored to suit me. As to the 2015 F4RR lets look at the pros and cons when comparing to a 2009 F4 312RR.
Pros:-
More room to move on bike.
Better range of movement on adjustable foot rests.
LED Driving lights under fairing.
LED Indicators and tail light
Small tank bag worked better as filler neck mount was further forward.
Bike was lighter.
Wheels were more pleasing to look at
Calipers were later Brembo.
Cons:-
Bike was built to a price and felt flimsy
Surface corrosion was evident on engine cases
ECU programming was poor on throttle. Went from 10% to 60% in a 5 degree turn of throttle making it unpredictable.
Electronic suspension was never just how I wanted it. It was Ohlins but I think Luigi programmed it whilst full of Vino.
Instruments were difficult if not impossible to read at speed.
Only came as a 2 seater whereas my F4 312RR was monoposto.
It vibrated.
999cc vs 1078cc
13500 revs for max bhp vs 11500 for 312RR
Corsacorta engine just did not have the urge that the 1078 did.
Overall it was still a good bike but just not a great bike. Hence why it came and went in 6 months but my old 312RR I had from new until late last year.
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