Arai or Shoei - the myth, the legend - head shapes...
Arai or Shoei - the myth, the legend - head shapes...
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s1dew1nd3r

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388 posts

81 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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SO - Ever heard "your either shoei or arai" - how true is that these days really?

Granted some lids might fit your head slightly differently but surely the interior cushioning will form to the shape of your head after a bit of use? or am i totally wrong here? I always fancied an Arai but got put onto Shoei by a J&S instore rep who told me i was a "shoei head" but iv tried plenty of Arai on, the fit felt fine no pressure points and comfortable but its always stuck with me. I just wondered how many other people are of the same store assistant opinion or if its an old myth?

cheers.

itcaptainslow

4,794 posts

166 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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For me it’s definitely a “thing”-I’ve found every Shoei I’ve tried uncomfortable. They’re either too big or create uncomfortable pressure points.

On the flip side, I’ve had three Arai’s and they’ve all been wonderfully comfortable.

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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I think all the manufacturers made helmets in their ranges to suit different head shapes over the years. Different helmets in the Arai range may suit one head shape more than another, I think you have to try them on. Just because one model fits get does not mean another does in my experience.

Some of the more comprehensive review websites note the shape see here

https://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmet-rev...


Biker's Nemesis

41,451 posts

238 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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Yeah, at least 30 years ago.

s1dew1nd3r

Original Poster:

388 posts

81 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Yeah, at least 30 years ago.
It wasnt 30 years ago i was in the shop and being told "you have a shoei head shape" pal.

mach1

121 posts

313 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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itcaptainslow said:
For me it’s definitely a “thing”-I’ve found every Shoei I’ve tried uncomfortable. They’re either too big or create uncomfortable pressure points.

On the flip side, I’ve had three Arai’s and they’ve all been wonderfully comfortable.
I have exactly the opposite. I prefer the Arai design and colour schemes but just can't get comfortable, always get a pressure point on my forehead. With Shoei I can wear any of their helmets all day so I would say it's definitely still a 'thing'.

SAS Tom

3,755 posts

204 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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I don’t find it’s a thing at all. I have both and they are both comfortable. I’ve also sold loads of helmets to people that have said they are one or the other and then had them find out that the one they were adamant wouldn’t fit actually does.

Zarco

21,112 posts

239 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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mach1 said:
itcaptainslow said:
For me it’s definitely a “thing”-I’ve found every Shoei I’ve tried uncomfortable. They’re either too big or create uncomfortable pressure points.

On the flip side, I’ve had three Arai’s and they’ve all been wonderfully comfortable.
I have exactly the opposite. I prefer the Arai design and colour schemes but just can't get comfortable, always get a pressure point on my forehead. With Shoei I can wear any of their helmets all day so I would say it's definitely still a 'thing'.
Snap.

I last tried on an Arai 10yrs ago mind. I've found HTC doesn't fit me properly more recently.

PorkInsider

6,631 posts

171 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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If it really is the case, how do sponsored riders manage when they move between brands?

MrGman

1,667 posts

236 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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PorkInsider said:
If it really is the case, how do sponsored riders manage when they move between brands?
Probably by changing the pads? Shoei have lots of different pad options I believe.
At the end of the day it’s only the pads that define how it fits your head.

outnumbered

4,879 posts

264 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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I've got a stupidly shaped head and have had comfortable fits from both shoei and arai. Adjustable cheek pads make a big difference. So I think it's bks...

Biker's Nemesis

41,451 posts

238 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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s1dew1nd3r said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Yeah, at least 30 years ago.
It wasnt 30 years ago i was in the shop and being told "you have a shoei head shape" pal.
You asked a question, I answered it.

I'm not your pal either.

jhoneyball

1,802 posts

306 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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I have both shoei (neotec2) and arai (rx7v). I fit both of them

Found the Schuberth 3 to be like putting my head in a dustbin

itcaptainslow

4,794 posts

166 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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MrGman said:
PorkInsider said:
If it really is the case, how do sponsored riders manage when they move between brands?
Probably by changing the pads? Shoei have lots of different pad options I believe.
At the end of the day it’s only the pads that define how it fits your head.
Undoubtedly-I’m sure I could find a Shoei that fits well with enough effort and swapping pads about.

However, I like the designs of the Arai’s I’ve bought, they feel well made (apart from the stupid visor change mechanism on the Rebel) and they always fit me well in Medium, so I’ll stick with them. smile

podman

9,085 posts

270 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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Was always a Arai man until last year, my first one was a Spencer rep in the 80s so being a big fan of the brand for quite some time.

I really wanted the convenience of an integral dark visor on my newest lid ,which Arai dont offer , tried a few lids on and ended up with a Shoei as offered the best fit, delighted with the quality and the price .




dreamer75

1,457 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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My car racing helmet was an Arai so I assumed I would fit an Arai motorbike helmet. Loved the colours but try as I might, none of them. fitted. I have two Shoei helmets, both of which fit fine. So fro me, yes, it is a thing!

chris4652009

1,572 posts

114 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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PorkInsider said:
If it really is the case, how do sponsored riders manage when they move between brands?
They have their helmets bespoke fitted to fit

They don’t wear off the shelf helmets

chris4652009

1,572 posts

114 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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Also it’s not just “Arai” headshape. It varies with models within the brand.

I have never been able to get any of the RX7 models to fit me correctly, yet the other models fit just fine

shoestring7

6,194 posts

276 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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Arai do different shell shapes; discussed half way down this thread:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Shoei easier to change cheek and centre pads, but they still won't fit everyone.

rodericb

8,910 posts

156 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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I had the first Shoei which had the fancy visor with no sideplates (1993 I think it was) and that pressed on the forehead crazily. Twenty two years later and having worn Arai all that time I tried on a Shoei Spirit III and it was comfortable. It would be good if the manufacturers did say what shaped head the models were - I'd always thought that the head shapes were same across a given manufacturers range and that Shoei had changed theirs about ten years ago to be more narrow.