Who else was on there bike in 32 c Temp.
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Yesterday i went out for a ride on my bike saw quite a few other bikers wilting in the heat!! its the first time ive seen 96c :yikes: on my bike temp guage while waiting at lights the cooling fan was working hard and so was i sat in my leathers slowly melting away!!!
It begs the qusetion how do people get on riding bikes abroad??
Also saw many a twat riding in shorts and t-shirts :rolleyes: and one guy who had come off his bike it looked like a Ka had pulled out on him luckily he had full leathers on and was sat up with paramedic in attendance.
Hope he was ok.
Yup a few friends and I were out yesterday, went to Beaulieu - was flippin' hot to ride in, rode there in full gear but did put wear jeans back (with jacket, boots etc). A colleague has just said to me that Police were pulling over a lot of bikers on the M3 for being in shorts and T shirts - that's just lunacy, on a motorway!!
It's lunacy anywhere!!! I saw some bloke on an R6 with his bikini clad girlfriend on the back. The class of road makes no difference at all!!
P.S. I've ridden through Spain for 2 weeks in similar temperatures in full leathers - - yes it's a bind but not as much as a full body skin graft!!!
P.S. I've ridden through Spain for 2 weeks in similar temperatures in full leathers - - yes it's a bind but not as much as a full body skin graft!!!
I went down to Beaulieu from Slough...
I found that the wind chill factor evened out the heat..... at 155mph!! (On a private track of mine, I wouldn't do that speed on the road)
Carried on my way at sensible speeds and wilted in the heat.
Once I finally got into the show, I was just parking the bike and it was so hot that the warning light started flashing and it was beeping at me to stop riding before it blows up!
I found that the wind chill factor evened out the heat..... at 155mph!! (On a private track of mine, I wouldn't do that speed on the road)
Carried on my way at sensible speeds and wilted in the heat.
Once I finally got into the show, I was just parking the bike and it was so hot that the warning light started flashing and it was beeping at me to stop riding before it blows up!
safety nazis?
is 30 or 40 or even 70 in shorts and t shirt so much less safe than 155 in leathers?
lots of motorbike cops in europe wear light shirts and thin trousers in summer. stopping bikes to argue the toss about their choice of clothing is harrassment. you could even argue that being too hot and sweaty under leather is detrimental to your riding
is 30 or 40 or even 70 in shorts and t shirt so much less safe than 155 in leathers?
lots of motorbike cops in europe wear light shirts and thin trousers in summer. stopping bikes to argue the toss about their choice of clothing is harrassment. you could even argue that being too hot and sweaty under leather is detrimental to your riding
s2rr kitty said:
It's lunacy anywhere!!! I saw some bloke on an R6 with his bikini clad girlfriend on the back. The class of road makes no difference at all!!
P.S. I've ridden through Spain for 2 weeks in similar temperatures in full leathers - - yes it's a bind but not as much as a full body skin graft!!!
Yeah, i've done it if i'm popping down the road, and I know I wont be going over 30mph - i'd ride a pushbike at these speeds in a T shirt, so dont see too much harm. That said, it is a VERY rare occurence. I rode back in all my gear except my goretex trousers yesterday, I wore my jeans - it was so bloody hot, and the fact that I had 11 1/2 stone balanced on my nuts without the normal padding of my overtrousers, kept the speeds down a bit
Listen to the kitty. Remind me to show you the state of my knee if you are in doubt - I came off at 30mph in jeans and gained a clear view of my kneecap. Not nice. I've known people who have died from roadrash. Your organs can't keep up with the demand to create plasma and eventually pack up from trying too hard. Get ventilated leathers, none of that nonsy nylon crap. It may make you feel a bit uncomfortable on a hot day, but fall off and you'll look bloody awful wihout them.
Here in the UK were are not used to riding in very hot weather as we get very little of it, but we should take our lead on what is best to wear in such conditions from those who have to do it regularly. If you look at bike cops in Italy, Spain, South of France, southern USA and other “hot climate” areas you’ll see that they consistently wear light cotton clothing – not full leathers!
I have had the situation of a pillion passenger pass out through heat exhaustion while driving through Italy and doing the “British Biker” thing of wearing leathers, regardless of the temperature. I was stunned how quickly my passenger went from being “fine” to passing out, and this was on a motorway where 80 – 90 mph breeze was helping with cooling of both bike and people. Luckily no one was hurt although 20mins on the hard shoulder of and Italian Motorway while she recovered enough to get to the next services was not fun.
I now take the stance that, while leathers would undoubtedly protect my skin in the event of an accident, keeping cool, and thus being able to concentrate on being safe, is much more likely to get me to my destination safely.
I have had the situation of a pillion passenger pass out through heat exhaustion while driving through Italy and doing the “British Biker” thing of wearing leathers, regardless of the temperature. I was stunned how quickly my passenger went from being “fine” to passing out, and this was on a motorway where 80 – 90 mph breeze was helping with cooling of both bike and people. Luckily no one was hurt although 20mins on the hard shoulder of and Italian Motorway while she recovered enough to get to the next services was not fun.
I now take the stance that, while leathers would undoubtedly protect my skin in the event of an accident, keeping cool, and thus being able to concentrate on being safe, is much more likely to get me to my destination safely.
Mad Dave said:
Yeah, i've done it if i'm popping down the road, and I know I wont be going over 30mph - i'd ride a pushbike at these speeds in a T shirt, so dont see too much harm.
It's not comparable, unfortunately...
I've come off pushbikes at 30mph and got up without even a scratch - indeed the only time I've hurt myself falling off a pushbike is when I knocked a tooth out trying to pull a wheelie aged about 6. I've come off motorbikes at 30mph and seen the scrape on my leathers which would have been a nasty bleeding mess if I hadn't had leathers on. It's a much heavier machine and the shape forces you into the tarmac if you don't separate from it before you touch down.
In this weather I just don't ride the bike in the daytime. Heatstroke before I've even started the engine - no thanks.
Mad Dave said:I can't believe that. What remit would they have for doing so?
A colleague has just said to me that Police were pulling over a lot of bikers on the M3 for being in shorts and T shirts - that's just lunacy, on a motorway!!
What people wear on bikes is a matter of personal choice based on personal experience and your own risk assessment. Saying that someone is stupid or is a lunatic for not wearing full leathers is about as valid as your granny suggesting you're an idiot for getting on the thing in the first place. Wear what *you* feel happiest in and let others do the same.
Mark
>> Edited by dern on Monday 20th June 13:32
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I can't believe that. What remit would they have for doing so?
What people wear on bikes is a matter of personal choice based on personal experience and your own risk assessment. Saying that someone is stupid or is a lunatic for not wearing full leathers is about as valid as your granny suggesting you're an idiot for getting on the thing in the first place. Wear what *you* feel happiest in and let others do the same.
Mark
A sobering reminder I read once was that skin and bone wears down at 2cm a second when you come off with nothing covering your arms at 30mph
I would rather sweat a bit than that.!!
I can't believe that. What remit would they have for doing so?
What people wear on bikes is a matter of personal choice based on personal experience and your own risk assessment. Saying that someone is stupid or is a lunatic for not wearing full leathers is about as valid as your granny suggesting you're an idiot for getting on the thing in the first place. Wear what *you* feel happiest in and let others do the same.
Mark
A sobering reminder I read once was that skin and bone wears down at 2cm a second when you come off with nothing covering your arms at 30mph
I would rather sweat a bit than that.!!
Thanks dern. I assume they pulled bikers over to give them a bit of education! IMHO there's nothing wrong with pointing out the error of somebody's ways.
Mon Ami - you are correct, I know, and 99% of the time I do not venture out without full gear. I think i've ridden in a T shirt once on the Ninja, and a further twice on the Bandit, all <30mph pootling around town, where i've been at a friend's place and taken the bike purely to avoid the traffic, rather than to go wellying it past all and sundry. It is still a risk, but as pointed out by dern, many consider merely riding the thing to be truly suicidal. Pootling through the New Forest yesterday @ <40mph in full gear was pure torture, whereas doing the same thing in jeans meant that only my top half sweltered.
Mon Ami - you are correct, I know, and 99% of the time I do not venture out without full gear. I think i've ridden in a T shirt once on the Ninja, and a further twice on the Bandit, all <30mph pootling around town, where i've been at a friend's place and taken the bike purely to avoid the traffic, rather than to go wellying it past all and sundry. It is still a risk, but as pointed out by dern, many consider merely riding the thing to be truly suicidal. Pootling through the New Forest yesterday @ <40mph in full gear was pure torture, whereas doing the same thing in jeans meant that only my top half sweltered.
I was out!! it was warm but Ok...
I have just bought a BMW Rallye suit - the one that was used on the long way round - it was flipping expensive but in heat it is fantastic, it vents so well and even in the full heat I was hardly sweating! I bought it for our round the world jaunt but even if we were not going I would still consider it! The other thing is to stop really often and drink.
I would never ride without proper protection as it aint worth the risk, can't believe how many people were over the weekend.
5 weeks till be leave!!!!!! I am getting excited and I don't do excitment!!!!
I have just bought a BMW Rallye suit - the one that was used on the long way round - it was flipping expensive but in heat it is fantastic, it vents so well and even in the full heat I was hardly sweating! I bought it for our round the world jaunt but even if we were not going I would still consider it! The other thing is to stop really often and drink.
I would never ride without proper protection as it aint worth the risk, can't believe how many people were over the weekend.
5 weeks till be leave!!!!!! I am getting excited and I don't do excitment!!!!
dern said:
I can't believe that. What remit would they have for doing so?
Their remit would be some thing along the lines of safety education and reduction of accident injuries for the already stretched NHS to put back together again.
Take the debate to it's extreme - they usually have the MotoGPs etc when it's hot, and i'm sure Mr Rossi et all don't just wear their leathers for some extra sponsorship cash.
twit said:
I was out!! it was warm but Ok...
I have just bought a BMW Rallye suit - the one that was used on the long way round - it was flipping expensive but in heat it is fantastic, it vents so well and even in the full heat I was hardly sweating!
That's in stark contrast to my Richa Le Mans jacket then - I rode from Beaulieu to Salisbury, sweated like a pig and when I put my jacket back on again after 2 hours to go home, the inside was absolutely soaked in cold sweat - it was disgusting!
Mad Dave said:My point was that it's up them to decide what they want to wear, they probably already know the dangers.
Thanks dern. I assume they pulled bikers over to give them a bit of education!
Mad Dave said:Really? How would you feel if they kept pulling you over to give you a bit of education on some subject you believed you knew best?
IMHO there's nothing wrong with pointing out the error of somebody's ways.
Mark
vitesse39 said:I'm not debating whether leather should or shouldn't be worn, that's up to you. The only point I'm making is that the decision should be up to the individual regardless or whether or not you agree or not.
Their remit would be some thing along the lines of safety education and reduction of accident injuries for the already stretched NHS to put back together again.
Take the debate to it's extreme - they usually have the MotoGPs etc when it's hot, and i'm sure Mr Rossi et all don't just wear their leathers for some extra sponsorship cash.
Personally I wear my full leathers every time I go out on my bike unless I just go the shops down the road in which case I'll stick my jeans on. I'm not really interested in debating the rights and wrongs of that just that I've weighed up the pros and cons and it's the decision I've taken.
It seems to me that we like to believe it's a free country but moan like hell when stuff is imposed on us be people making up our minds for us but then bemoan other who don't voluntarily come to the same conclusion as we do and subsequently we denounce them as 'stupid'. Doesn't add up.
Mark
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