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Bubba Zanetti

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740 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Just wondering what to do next. Do I go straight to DAS or do I have 6 months on a 125 learning the ropes?

easy_rider33

155 posts

135 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Straight on to a DAS if you can, never understood why people drive around forever on 125s. Plus you won’t get in to bad habits riding about for months too.

Drezza

1,471 posts

84 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Straight to DAS! Much easier riding a big bike safely imo (other than slow manouvers).

GTiWILL

780 posts

108 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Straight to DAS on the proviso that you found the CBT easy enough. If you wobbled around hopelessly and scraped through I’d probably get 6 months practice in before attempting DAS.

Me? I went straight to DAS on one of those intensive courses. I found CBT fine but struggled a bit more with clutch control on a 600. I wish I’d been advised to use two fingers instead of four (oo err) as I found it way easier after changing! Anyway, I passed each first time with one minor followed by two minors respectively.

Markgenesis

555 posts

162 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Straight to DAS, don't be tempted to buy a 125, you wont gain much from it, i took one two hour DAS lesson a week over a few months (wasn't in a hurry to get the license so lessons suited) , i found the CBT a drag, but loved the lessons on the big bike.

Bubba Zanetti

Original Poster:

740 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Cheers all DAS it is then!

Drl22

803 posts

95 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Bubba Zanetti said:
Cheers all DAS it is then!

As much as straight to DAS might be appealing. I did my CBT a week ago and can’t book a theory test until late October (availability) and was told test centres aren’t doing tests right now. So I’ve decided to get some 125 experience in the mean time and as soon as I’ve done the theory I’ll book the first test.

OverSteery

3,794 posts

261 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Bubba Zanetti said:
Just wondering what to do next. Do I go straight to DAS or do I have 6 months on a 125 learning the ropes?
Did you ask you CBT instructor?

It really depends on how "comfortable" you are on a bike.

I am a CBT instructor. I had two students today.

One was a natural on a bike and as an experienced car driver, I told him should go straight for DAS (if he can - there are delays booking at the moment).

The other really struggled with his bike control. He doesn't use a car, and had limited Road sense. He needs a fair bit of practice before he will be able to pass DAS. Better he gets a 125 than pays for an instructor to stand and watch him for hours whilst he builds up to the level required for DAS. The level of control for DAS is higher than CBT.
Get a sensible 125 and it can be sold for the same money after 6-12 months.




Pete-mojsh

370 posts

126 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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I have my theory at the end of September, I can't get in for mod 1/2 until that's done and all the local instructors won't take anyone on won't start lessons until then either as they have a massive backlog.

Get a date for your theory then see what the local schools say.

LookAtMyCat

464 posts

138 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Yeah just don't bother with a 125 if you're a grown man. They're slow, unstable, sound st, and do you really want to ride around with L plates on anyway?


Drl22

803 posts

95 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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LookAtMyCat said:
Yeah just don't bother with a 125 if you're a grown man. They're slow, unstable, sound st, and do you really want to ride around with L plates on anyway?
rolleyes

LookAtMyCat

464 posts

138 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Drl22 said:
rolleyes
Oh sorry, you've just done your CBT so you know better rolleyes

Drl22

803 posts

95 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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LookAtMyCat said:
Oh sorry, you've just done your CBT so you know better rolleyes
I know a cliche when I see one.

arcticGT

986 posts

242 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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OverSteery said:
Did you ask you CBT instructor?

It really depends on how "comfortable" you are on a bike.

I am a CBT instructor. I had two students today.

One was a natural on a bike and as an experienced car driver, I told him should go straight for DAS (if he can - there are delays booking at the moment).

The other really struggled with his bike control. He doesn't use a car, and had limited Road sense. He needs a fair bit of practice before he will be able to pass DAS. Better he gets a 125 than pays for an instructor to stand and watch him for hours whilst he builds up to the level required for DAS. The level of control for DAS is higher than CBT.
Get a sensible 125 and it can be sold for the same money after 6-12 months.
Yet the guy who’s wobbly with little road sense can jump straight out on the 125 and learn the hard way whilst the natural with lots of road sense can only ride (a big bike) with a qualified instructor with him talking in his ear. It’s madness really.

thatdude

2,660 posts

157 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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If you're comfortable and happy, just get right to it.

if you feel you need a bit of time building up some skills following on form your CBT then by all means, have some fun on a 125.

This is your choice.

thatdude

2,660 posts

157 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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LookAtMyCat said:
Yeah just don't bother with a 125 if you're a grown man. They're slow, unstable, sound st, and do you really want to ride around with L plates on anyway?
They have their place in the world, and they are fine for a grown man or anyone else really.

Chill with the masculinity there fella.

stu67

889 posts

218 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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For my 10 pence worth I'd go straight to DAS and buy a125 in the interim. Take weekly lessons towards your DAS whilst using the 125 to build up a bit of roadcraft and taking what is taught in the lessons out onto the road. Let's be honest it's going to be Christmas at the earliest before you can go through Mod1, 2 and theory.
I've been riding for 35 years, commute into London and the more I think about it and from what I see, the more I believe that the CBT is a joke and it should be far tougher. It should at least have the theory element linked to it rather than the Mod1 and 2.
However I do take on board the crippling costs of learning "properly", Decent 1st kit, £800, Lessons £50? for a couple of hours each week, etc. etc, it all must get a bit eye watering.

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,138 posts

132 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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I rode a 125 for about 4 months then did my DAS and I think its a good way to learn/practise. I did loads of mod 1 type practise on it in car parks as well as commuted on it. I enjoyed it - it was about the same speed as a ford KA (impromptu traffic light GP with a friend) and its fast enough. They run out of steam about 50/60 but I didn't need to do much dual carriage way work anyway.

I think the practise was part of the reason I passed first time with a fairly short amount of tuition.

Salted_Peanut

1,788 posts

84 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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stu67 said:
I believe that the CBT is a joke and it should be far tougher. It should at least have the theory element linked to it rather than the Mod1 and 2.
I wonder why the CBT doesn't have the theory element linked to it? confused

KAgantua

5,190 posts

161 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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thatdude said:
LookAtMyCat said:
Yeah just don't bother with a 125 if you're a grown man. They're slow, unstable, sound st, and do you really want to ride around with L plates on anyway?
They have their place in the world, and they are fine for a grown man or anyone else really.

Chill with the masculinity there fella.
Indeed - ever been to Greece/ Italy/ Spain? Lots of small bikes (and small cars too!) Dont think they have a problem with confidence or masculinity smile