Bike for 500 mile autumn/winter commute
Bike for 500 mile autumn/winter commute
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aixam city

Original Poster:

9 posts

145 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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I've got a 2018 GSXS1000 and have considered doing the commute on this. Just wondered if there were any other great options.

Ideally, it'll be reliable with a large fuel tank (or decent range via fuel efficiency). Let's set the budget at £5k. I have an old Golf for days when the weather is particularly bad.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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Is there a typo in the title or are you a lunatic? biggrin

aixam city

Original Poster:

9 posts

145 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Ha ha! It's 250 miles each way (down on Monday, back on Friday).

I did think about getting panniers etc for the Suzuki but just wondered if there was a better idea ...

Kent Border Kenny

2,219 posts

90 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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No bike will ever make that distance an acceptable commute.

When I started work in the ‘90s I commuted on an RXS 100 initially, then an RD350 YPVS. Both did the job, neither were really suitable.

You want weather protection, a large range, heated grips, and a comfortable riding position.

As you’ve presumably written the wrong difference, and not said what sort of roads you are on, it’s going to be guesswork, so I’ll say a Kawasaki J300 scooter.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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I do that on my VN900, but I live in the tropics, I can get around 200+ miles to a tank, so stop once, In UK with the cold and wet I'd not use a cruiser, but the distance is doable.

the cueball

1,912 posts

85 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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The bike you’re after is the Honda Pan European.


Petrolism

462 posts

136 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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You beat me to it. Either that or an older VFR770 or 800. They're pretty cheap and totally dependable, especially if you convert to a MOSFET voltage regulator, before it cooks.

Mr_Tickle

224 posts

208 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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I wouldn't buy a new bike straight away, I think you'll be ok on the Suzuki. Do it a few times and see, you might get away with upgrading the seat or something and that's it; it's only Mon and Fri after all, and I guess Fri will be done in heavy traffic. Hopefully you'll only need one fuel stop too. For reference I tour on a Z1000.

Jazoli

9,681 posts

280 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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the cueball said:
The bike you’re after is the Honda Pan European.
Is the correct answer, with the biggest screen you can get, and heated clothing and gloves.

myvision

2,131 posts

166 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Petrolism said:
You beat me to it. Either that or an older VFR770 or 800. They're pretty cheap and totally dependable, especially if you convert to a MOSFET voltage regulator, before it cooks.
I do home to London (220 miles) on my 1998 VFR regularly in all weathers.
I do need to stop for fuel. Heated grips are a must and in winter I fit muffs no cold hands with that combo.

You will hate it in winter.
I'd love a pan European to do it on as it would be more comfortable and better weather protection.

Rubin215

4,201 posts

186 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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The bike you're after is a car.

Older luxury motor with a big diesel engine, leather interior, heated seats, stereo, cruise control, hid headlights and climate.

You'll thank me for this.

black-k1

12,807 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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the cueball said:
The bike you’re after is the Honda Pan European.
This, or a BMW of the same era.


stu67

889 posts

218 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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I'd say a Moto Guzzi Norge or similar

However a guy I worked with used to come down from Grimsby to London 3 times a week, think it was something like 3 hours each way? He had a diesel Citroen Berlingo that was ex disabled with the ramp etc, he hated driving all the way into London so kept a CB125 in the back. He would park up in Barnet just off the A1, get the bike out the back and ride into town. It always seemed to me a sensible way of doing it. The time he used to do it he said there was never any traffic until North London so using the bike for the last 45 mins was the answer

A500leroy

8,547 posts

148 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Honda Deauville?

Petrolism

462 posts

136 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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myvision said:
Petrolism said:
You beat me to it. Either that or an older VFR770 or 800. They're pretty cheap and totally dependable, especially if you convert to a MOSFET voltage regulator, before it cooks.
I do home to London (220 miles) on my 1998 VFR regularly in all weathers.
I do need to stop for fuel. Heated grips are a must and in winter I fit muffs no cold hands with that combo.

You will hate it in winter.
I'd love a pan European to do it on as it would be more comfortable and better weather protection.
About 27 years ago, as a student I'd ride my VFR750 in the middle of winter nights from Brighton to Keele University, not far from Newcastle, to see my girlfriend. Pinned at 140 - 150 mph most of the way with about 6 layers on in the heart of winter at sub-zero temperatures, only stopping for fuel I'd arrive with painfully numb hands after 3 hours or so.

I still have that same bike, albeit with updated mechanicals and on a different continent now. Over 70,000 hard ridden miles (mostly in the U.K. when I was younger) on the original engine and its never missed a beat. Nowadays there are such things as rechargeable heated gloves & vests, which would make use in winter a lot less uncomfortable. They're great bikes and pretty cheap to buy. Mileage is less important than condition.
Just don't ride in snow and ice.





SAS Tom

3,755 posts

204 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Definitely a car. There’s no fun riding for the sake of it especially in winter. I’m assuming it’s mostly motorway too which will be even more boring.

Richtea1970

1,877 posts

90 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Rubin215 said:
The bike you're after is a car.

Older luxury motor with a big diesel engine, leather interior, heated seats, stereo, cruise control, hid headlights and climate.

You'll thank me for this.
I’d agree, if not a luxury barge, just some euro box with good mpg would surely make more sense than a bike? I’ve done some commutes on a bike and nothing kills your love of riding quicker than commuting in the winter.

Bumblebee7

1,533 posts

105 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Following with interest as I may be regularly doing the journey from Cornwall to London. Best I've come up with so far is to buy a more luxurious car (which isn't great due to tiredness and traffic), option 2 is to pay an extortionate amount for the train or my current personal favourite is to get a second bike to leave at Newquay airport with a second bike at Heathrow. Flights are cheaper and quicker than the train albeit this isn't a very environmentally friendly solution.

I can't think of a way that the journey would be in any way tolerable on a bike, especially in the darker colder months.

FarQue

2,339 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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the cueball said:
The bike you’re after is the Honda Pan European.
Or baby brother Deauville. Not fast, but all you need for what you have in mind.

FarQue

2,339 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Bumblebee7 said:
Following with interest as I may be regularly doing the journey from Cornwall to London. Best I've come up with so far is to buy a more luxurious car (which isn't great due to tiredness and traffic), option 2 is to pay an extortionate amount for the train or my current personal favourite is to get a second bike to leave at Newquay airport with a second bike at Heathrow. Flights are cheaper and quicker than the train albeit this isn't a very environmentally friendly solution.

I can't think of a way that the journey would be in any way tolerable on a bike, especially in the darker colder months.
Some years ago (2002/2003) I regularly did mid-Cornwall to Lancashire on a bike - so A30/M5/M6, 345 miles each way. It was hard work and very boring. I know little about flying so can't comment, but I reckon for your usage a cheap car and early/late starts to beat traffic would be worth looking into.