Andrea Dovizioso- Undaunted
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I thought it was a great watch, having seen it in the off season can't say I was particularly surprised at him leaving Ducati! Can imagine the snide passive aggressive atmosphere getting very wearing, especially after he's been their only consistent performer for several years.
Unfortunately for him he's come up against a freak of nature in Marquez otherwise you'd imagine he'd have at least one premier class title under his belt, if not 2 or 3.
Unfortunately for him he's come up against a freak of nature in Marquez otherwise you'd imagine he'd have at least one premier class title under his belt, if not 2 or 3.
Alimarsh said:
I thought it was a great watch, having seen it in the off season can't say I was particularly surprised at him leaving Ducati! Can imagine the snide passive aggressive atmosphere getting very wearing, especially after he's been their only consistent performer for several years.
Unfortunately for him he's come up against a freak of nature in Marquez otherwise you'd imagine he'd have at least one premier class title under his belt, if not 2 or 3.
Totally agreeUnfortunately for him he's come up against a freak of nature in Marquez otherwise you'd imagine he'd have at least one premier class title under his belt, if not 2 or 3.
Very candid film.
Whilst I personally love Ducati and their story - as part of Audi they seem to have lost a little soul and gained some technology and funds, but minus the heart to help get the most from their package.
Dovi may not have been destined to win a title but he has certainly given it his 'all'
Whilst I personally love Ducati and their story - as part of Audi they seem to have lost a little soul and gained some technology and funds, but minus the heart to help get the most from their package.
Dovi may not have been destined to win a title but he has certainly given it his 'all'
. I like dovi always have. Its a great documentary. I love how Dovi goes about his business and he is one of my favourite riders. He's been a great counter point to Marquez over the last few years, but I do agree with Ducati’s main criticism of him. It probably would do him good to push harder for a result once in a while.
I think because 'the Professor' is so calculated they think he leaves too much on the table at times.
I think because 'the Professor' is so calculated they think he leaves too much on the table at times.
Looks to me like they respect his ability a great deal but think he's not maximising his potential much of the time.
Also that they want someone who rides with passion, and he's a self confessed introvert. That's not going to mix well.
I suspect what's happening is that when they get to tracks that suit the bike, or it has some front end feel, Dovi can push it harder and/or the track characteristics mean the bike is that much quicker than the competition. They then consider that at these tracks he's taken his brain out and gone for it - shown passion.
Then they get to tracks that don't suit the bike so well, or the front end feel isn't there, Dovi rides it to an extent where he feels he's not going to bin it, it's not right up at the sharp end because it's not a ducati track, and they consider that he's over thinking it and playing it too safe.
What they're doing is blaming the rider for not pushing it to its limits, refusing to accept that there's a very few individuals on the planet who can ride a bike without front end feel like that (Marquez and Stoner are the only two I can think of) and that Dovi needs to dig deeper because the bike can do it if he would let himself go.
I suspect if he did do that he'd bin it more times than he'd win it, and probably end up spannered for a third of any given season.
Also that they want someone who rides with passion, and he's a self confessed introvert. That's not going to mix well.
I suspect what's happening is that when they get to tracks that suit the bike, or it has some front end feel, Dovi can push it harder and/or the track characteristics mean the bike is that much quicker than the competition. They then consider that at these tracks he's taken his brain out and gone for it - shown passion.
Then they get to tracks that don't suit the bike so well, or the front end feel isn't there, Dovi rides it to an extent where he feels he's not going to bin it, it's not right up at the sharp end because it's not a ducati track, and they consider that he's over thinking it and playing it too safe.
What they're doing is blaming the rider for not pushing it to its limits, refusing to accept that there's a very few individuals on the planet who can ride a bike without front end feel like that (Marquez and Stoner are the only two I can think of) and that Dovi needs to dig deeper because the bike can do it if he would let himself go.
I suspect if he did do that he'd bin it more times than he'd win it, and probably end up spannered for a third of any given season.
FNG said:
Looks to me like they respect his ability a great deal but think he's not maximising his potential much of the time.
Also that they want someone who rides with passion, and he's a self confessed introvert. That's not going to mix well.
I suspect what's happening is that when they get to tracks that suit the bike, or it has some front end feel, Dovi can push it harder and/or the track characteristics mean the bike is that much quicker than the competition. They then consider that at these tracks he's taken his brain out and gone for it - shown passion.
Then they get to tracks that don't suit the bike so well, or the front end feel isn't there, Dovi rides it to an extent where he feels he's not going to bin it, it's not right up at the sharp end because it's not a ducati track, and they consider that he's over thinking it and playing it too safe.
What they're doing is blaming the rider for not pushing it to its limits, refusing to accept that there's a very few individuals on the planet who can ride a bike without front end feel like that (Marquez and Stoner are the only two I can think of) and that Dovi needs to dig deeper because the bike can do it if he would let himself go.
I suspect if he did do that he'd bin it more times than he'd win it, and probably end up spannered for a third of any given season.
Can’t disagree with any of that.Also that they want someone who rides with passion, and he's a self confessed introvert. That's not going to mix well.
I suspect what's happening is that when they get to tracks that suit the bike, or it has some front end feel, Dovi can push it harder and/or the track characteristics mean the bike is that much quicker than the competition. They then consider that at these tracks he's taken his brain out and gone for it - shown passion.
Then they get to tracks that don't suit the bike so well, or the front end feel isn't there, Dovi rides it to an extent where he feels he's not going to bin it, it's not right up at the sharp end because it's not a ducati track, and they consider that he's over thinking it and playing it too safe.
What they're doing is blaming the rider for not pushing it to its limits, refusing to accept that there's a very few individuals on the planet who can ride a bike without front end feel like that (Marquez and Stoner are the only two I can think of) and that Dovi needs to dig deeper because the bike can do it if he would let himself go.
I suspect if he did do that he'd bin it more times than he'd win it, and probably end up spannered for a third of any given season.
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