Speed camera avoidance technique
Speed camera avoidance technique
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Evening all,

A thought popped into my head the other day regarding mobile speed camera evasion on a motorbike. My understanding is the van clocks your speed head on as you travel towards it and a camera in the front cabin picks up your number plate as you ride past.

Has anyone, or knows a friend who has popped a wheelie to avoid a ticket?

trickywoo

14,237 posts

260 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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I know of someone who obscured the plate prior to doing a U-turn.

Got done for PCJ. The cops love putting effort into prosecuting a PCJ, above your more usual crimes.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,038 posts

265 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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If you do 176 mph you won't be in the second photo of a static camera

maybe hehe

podman

9,084 posts

270 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Metal plates are easy to fold in half prior to passing the van as well!

Irony is, simply noyt having a plate on the bike in the first place would be a lesser offence if caught (it fell off officer...)

Jazoli

9,681 posts

280 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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I've found that the MK1 eyeball combined with waze running in the background on your phone is most effective, if you pay attention you shouldn't get caught.

It works, this was one of my friends last weekend

Edit vid removed wink



Edited by Jazoli on Saturday 26th September 08:52

black-k1

12,807 posts

259 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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So, to avoid a speeding ticket we're discussing risking a dangerous driving charge (ban and possible prison) or PCJ (substantial fine and possible prison) scratchchin Sounds like a worthwhile gamble. rolleyes

Esceptico

8,897 posts

139 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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I found moving to NZ the best avoidance technique.

LunarOne

7,339 posts

167 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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I've always preferred this technique. Works when you're in a car too!!


2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,038 posts

265 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Has nobody suggested sticking to the speed limit? scratchchinhehe

Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

74 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Jazoli said:
I've found that the MK1 eyeball combined with waze running in the background on your phone is most effective, if you pay attention you shouldn't get caught.[/url]
I did enjoy the video you linked.

I recommend your friend takes it down though. With the amount of CCTV around these days, plod could probably figure out who it was if they took an interest.

Zarco

21,102 posts

239 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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MK1 eyeball works for me too.


Taita

8,010 posts

233 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Iminquarantine said:
I did enjoy the video you linked.

I recommend your friend takes it down though. With the amount of CCTV around these days, plod could probably figure out who it was if they took an interest.
In theeeeeeory, maybe.

In reality..... A set of clocks going past smile

Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

74 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Taita said:
In theeeeeeory, maybe.

In reality..... A set of clocks going past smile
Someone will be able to identify the make of bike and the road. The date and time could be figured out by the police, as they know when they were operating in that lay-by. CCTV would identify a bike of that make in the area at the time. Given the rural location and speedometer in mph with no km/h subscale, it’s probably an older bike. It will be the only bike of that make in the area at the time. That’s not enough by itself, so combine with:

There are some frames where the key ring is visible flapping in the wind. On the LHS there looks to be a white non-factory item around some cables. The key ring and the non-standard features would identify the specific bike, if the police paid the keeper of the suspect bike a visit. The police in the lay-by may have body cameras running, which would catch further video of the bike passing. This combined with YouTube footage, would further identify the specific bike.

Sorry to be a party pooper. If you do something unlawful, don’t post a video about it.

NS400R

507 posts

189 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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trickywoo said:
I know of someone who obscured the plate prior to doing a U-turn.

Got done for PCJ. The cops love putting effort into prosecuting a PCJ, above your more usual crimes.
I've done the U turn trick a few times. Never been stupid enough to cover a plate, so no risk of a PCoJ charge. From my discussions with camera operatives, most are somewhat sympathetic, so they will turn likely a blind eye to a u-turn but covering your plate.... WTF....

Biker's Nemesis

41,450 posts

238 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Iminquarantine said:
Someone will be able to identify the make of bike and the road. The date and time could be figured out by the police, as they know when they were operating in that lay-by. CCTV would identify a bike of that make in the area at the time. Given the rural location and speedometer in mph with no km/h subscale, it’s probably an older bike. It will be the only bike of that make in the area at the time. That’s not enough by itself, so combine with:

There are some frames where the key ring is visible flapping in the wind. On the LHS there looks to be a white non-factory item around some cables. The key ring and the non-standard features would identify the specific bike, if the police paid the keeper of the suspect bike a visit. The police in the lay-by may have body cameras running, which would catch further video of the bike passing. This combined with YouTube footage, would further identify the specific bike.

Sorry to be a party pooper. If you do something unlawful, don’t post a video about it.
I think you're overthinking things. Like your gloves.

Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

74 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Biker's Nemesis said:
I think you're overthinking things. Like your gloves.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-derbyshire-50127635

Bike in vid on this thread had a peak speed of 110mph. They were damned lucky to have spotted the police. Why undo that by posting a public video of it?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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black-k1 said:
So, to avoid a speeding ticket we're discussing risking a dangerous driving charge (ban and possible prison) or PCJ (substantial fine and possible prison) scratchchin Sounds like a worthwhile gamble. rolleyes
It's an interesting subject! I personally wouldn't do it but I'm sure some people have/would.

KurtFlew

509 posts

83 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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I remember reading a year or two back about a biker who put his foot over his plate after going past a van at speed. Got properly fked for it.

I got very lucky in 2018 after going towards one at double the limit, but I think being on the wrong side of road at the time overtaking meant the camera wasn't focused in on me. Never heard anything from it, but did crap myself getting home from work for about 3 weeks.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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NS400R said:
trickywoo said:
I know of someone who obscured the plate prior to doing a U-turn.

Got done for PCJ. The cops love putting effort into prosecuting a PCJ, above your more usual crimes.
I've done the U turn trick a few times. Never been stupid enough to cover a plate, so no risk of a PCoJ charge. From my discussions with camera operatives, most are somewhat sympathetic, so they will turn likely a blind eye to a u-turn but covering your plate.... WTF....
Would the camera operator not just photograph you heading away from the rear facing camera and combine the previous footage?

Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

74 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Going back to the original question: I think Waze is almost 100% reliable in identifying locations. However it does not give sufficient warning. You could be within the detection distance before you get a warning.