Garage security

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ekulluke

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229 posts

44 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Morning all

I’ve just moved into a new house and want my garage security sorted. I’ve got a galvanised steel electric roller door (just got it installed), but that’s about it. I’ve bought an Oxford Ground anchor and have a Abus Chain but they’re not massive (pretty mid range).

I have proper anxiety about my bikes (790 Duke and Moto Guzzi T5) being nicked as welll as my tools or mountain bikes.

Just bought the house and done a full refurb so a bit strapped for cash. Does anyone have any ideas for additional security or alarms that I can look into that doesn’t cost too much? Should add I live in a cul de sac in (what I consider) a rather nice and low risk area but no where is safe these days.

Looked at some £20 PiR ones but I can’t see any decent ones. Would be good if it can be layered on with more expensive stuff when I have some more cash.

Cheers.

StreetDragster

1,527 posts

220 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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I've just had a pair of Guardsman security barriers fitted, i like them because they protect the bike/car as well as large tool boxes etc, and a single barrier protects multiple bikes/cars. £600 though, or £550 with a code from one of Missenden Flyers videos.

Check them out-
https://image4security.com/shop/ols/products/the-g...
https://www.facebook.com/GuardsmanBarrier

Matt

ekulluke

Original Poster:

229 posts

44 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Thanks Matt. I am going to get one of these as I watched MFs video on them last year and was in process of looking to move so didn’t bother with one. I’ll get one when my bank account is healthier.

For now I just want something to tide me over until then. Between the beefy door and the ground anchor/chain I’m pretty good but definitely just want that little something extra.

ScoobyChris

1,721 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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We've got an integral garage and have a wireless PIR for the house alarm in there but mainly to cover it off as an access point rather than to protect anything in the garage. Tried it a couple of times (on our unsuspecting kids getting their bikes out) and triggers quite easily as the door opens. Of course, the main downside is it's only set when the house alarm is armed.

Chris



Edited by ScoobyChris on Wednesday 4th November 12:41

Krikkit

26,621 posts

183 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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StreetDragster said:
I've just had a pair of Guardsman security barriers fitted, i like them because they protect the bike/car as well as large tool boxes etc, and a single barrier protects multiple bikes/cars. £600 though, or £550 with a code from one of Missenden Flyers videos.

Check them out-
https://image4security.com/shop/ols/products/the-g...
https://www.facebook.com/GuardsmanBarrier

Matt
They look pretty good, but £550?! Do you get an insurance discount with them or anything?

If not I'd make one myself or be tempted just to get a local engineering firm to knock up a copy.

jakeharvey63

152 posts

203 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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I’ve got a similar setup as you, but I also have a alarmed Xena disc lock and a small cctv camera. If they are going to take the bikes, they will, but it’s about making it as difficult and time consuming as possible.

Maybe a proximity alarm, something that will scream it’s head off if you don’t put a code in upon entry? Or a flood light near the garage?

Trevor555

4,466 posts

86 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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I'd fit a very simple alarm with door sensors that had a siren so loud they wouldn't be able to stay in the garage.

You probably wouldn't be able to buy such a loud siren for a home kit, probably have to go to a farm supplies shop.

Then I'd fit a cheap dummy alarm box so they target that and don't see the real thing hidden inside the garage.

StreetDragster

1,527 posts

220 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Krikkit said:
They look pretty good, but £550?! Do you get an insurance discount with them or anything?

If not I'd make one myself or be tempted just to get a local engineering firm to knock up a copy.
You do through Bemoto i think.
Not something i wanted to be bothered with, mine were custom made by them to suit my wider doors.

Matt

BuzzBravado

2,944 posts

173 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Does the garage have a side entrance? If so this is the easiest way into a modern garage, by snapping the lock then opening the big door from within. Anti snap locks(3 star) at about £50 is worth it.

Depending on the brand of electric opener then you could consider a de-latching kit to make use of the side pins on the main door.

https://www.thegaragedoorcentre.co.uk/newfaqs/what...

ekulluke

Original Poster:

229 posts

44 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Thanks all. I don’t have a side entrance to the garage so fortunately don’t have to worry about that.

A few of you suggesting proximity sensors or small cams. This is likely the route I’ll go - anyone got one they have got and used / can recommend?

Thanks again.

Timbo_S2

543 posts

265 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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I've got electric up and overs, which are locked. Weakest point is prying the side frames, so I've fixed some steel angles to slow anyone down here.

Personnel Door is a half glazed timber door, with upgraded locks. Behind this is a steel grillage, bolted into the masonry. Alarm monotr on the timber door, so if thats opened, alarm goes off and you still have the steel grillage to get through. I also have wifi CCTV pointed at both doors inside, which records in the house. Security lights outside, and I don;t think there's much more I can do without making life hard on myself!

rev-erend

21,434 posts

286 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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You could get a Rottweiler and let it sleep in the garage

biggrin

FunkyNige

8,921 posts

277 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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ScoobyChris said:
We've got an integral garage and have a wireless PIR for the house alarm in there but mainly to cover it off as an access point rather than to protect anything in the garage. Tried it a couple of times (on our unsuspecting kids getting their bikes out) and triggers quite easily as the door opens. Of course, the main downside is it's only set when the house alarm is armed.

Chris
Can you put it on a separate alarm circuit? That's what ours is (though our alarm is wired) so is on all the time unless we need to go out to the garage

mikedxb

387 posts

97 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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“I've got electric up and overs, which are locked. Weakest point is prying the side frames, so I've fixed some steel angles to slow anyone down here.”

I have up and over too... but I can’t picture what you have done... can u post photo?

I have wondered about fitting something to block the up and over action.... there is probably something available that does this... will have a google.

(I was thinking about something that is internal to the garage)

Edited by mikedxb on Wednesday 4th November 14:23

Timbo_S2

543 posts

265 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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mikedxb said:
“I've got electric up and overs, which are locked. Weakest point is prying the side frames, so I've fixed some steel angles to slow anyone down here.”

I have up and over too... but I can’t picture what you have done... can u post photo?

I have wondered about fitting something to block the up and over action.... there is probably something available that does this... will have a google.

(I was thinking about something that is internal to the garage)

Edited by mikedxb on Wednesday 4th November 14:23
Sorry, I meant electric roller shutters. The runners screw into the masonry; you could get a crowbar in between the two. Ive fixed angles to the masonry to prevent this a little; its much harder to pry these off...

ScoobyChris

1,721 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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FunkyNige said:
Can you put it on a separate alarm circuit? That's what ours is (though our alarm is wired) so is on all the time unless we need to go out to the garage
You possibly can. For our use though, that would become a pain as we're forever going to the garage for something biggrin

Chris

mikedxb

387 posts

97 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Ah- ok! I’m sure there is a way to do what I have in mind... look into it.

zzrman

636 posts

191 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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rev-erend said:
You could get a Rottweiler and let it sleep in the garage

biggrin
biggrin My old Rottie would just have licked you to death if you broke in biggrin

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

192 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Cheap interim solution is to invest in cameras and security lights I would have thought.

They're pretty affordable these days, the problem is not obsessively looking at it, many do however have triggered alerts and facial recognition which actually does work (usually needs a subscription though).

If you wanted an indoors camera, even a used video baby monitor would be a sound bet, night vision, and one way communication... A would be thief, would also never know how long you've been listening in for if they spot it. Might freak them out.

If you're into home automation, you can have a powered remotely operated socket as well. Combined with a camera to confirm who is in your garage, you can simply trigger whatever device you choose to plug in. Siren, smoke machine, semtex... Whatever. They're about £40.





Edited by Prof Prolapse on Wednesday 4th November 15:28

ekulluke

Original Poster:

229 posts

44 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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rev-erend said:
You could get a Rottweiler and let it sleep in the garage

biggrin
I saw a Rottweiler being walked the other day. It had a harness on that said ‘friendly’ in big green letters.

I wonder if you can get a red one that says ‘aggressive as f...’ on