MOTO GP Performance Riding Techniques by Andy Ibbott

MOTO GP Performance Riding Techniques by Andy Ibbott

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90 posts

223 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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I think someone pointed to this book in one of the threads here.

My son asked me what I would like for Christmas so I asked him to get me a copy.

He has apparently ordered the 4th edition from www.performanceridingtechniques.co.uk, but the website does not look very professional to me.

Has anyone bought the book from this source?

Tardigrade

142 posts

74 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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The url was registered via Google in May 2020, with no other info provided.
https://www.nominet.uk/whois/?query=performancerid...

The Google search wording is suspiciously clumsy, perhaps by someone with limited grasp of English.


Not conclusive, but I think it justifies suspicion.

Taita

7,809 posts

217 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Tbf it looks like a tiny business Wix website or similar, rather than a big scam?

thatdude

2,660 posts

141 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Ah, yes, Andy Ibbott, that most famous of MotoGP racers.

dibblecorse

7,075 posts

206 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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thatdude said:
Ah, yes, Andy Ibbott, that most famous of MotoGP racers.
You mean the Andy Ibbott that has coached multiple champions including Tom Luthi in MGP and Leon Camier throughout his career and was also EMEA MD of California Superbike School at its peak ?

Yeah, that one, was Alex Ferguson the best top tier footballer in the UK ? No, is he the most successful domestic manager the UK and most of Europe has ever seen, yes.

To belittle someone because they haven't 'won it' as a participant is to show how ignorant you are of how sport works.

To the OP, Andy is a personal friend of mine and you should have no qualms ordering via that link as thats his storefront, I have all 4 editions as a way of supporting Andy who a few years ago had a stroke whilst under a general anaesthetic for a routine op.

If you want it signed, once the order is placed you can PM through PH and give me the name of who placed the order and i will see if I can get him to do that.





FazerBoy

989 posts

164 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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dibblecorse said:
You mean the Andy Ibbott that has coached multiple champions including Tom Luthi in MGP and Leon Camier throughout his career and was also EMEA MD of California Superbike School at its peak ?

Yeah, that one, was Alex Ferguson the best top tier footballer in the UK ? No, is he the most successful domestic manager the UK and most of Europe has ever seen, yes.

To belittle someone because they haven't 'won it' as a participant is to show how ignorant you are of how sport works.

To the OP, Andy is a personal friend of mine and you should have no qualms ordering via that link as thats his storefront, I have all 4 editions as a way of supporting Andy who a few years ago had a stroke whilst under a general anaesthetic for a routine op.

If you want it signed, once the order is placed you can PM through PH and give me the name of who placed the order and i will see if I can get him to do that.
This book was offered as a prize in MCN recently and I was thinking about buying a copy but had not yet pulled the trigger.

Your post has made my mind up for me and I’m going to place my order now - if only to support Andy (hopefully the book’s a good read too)!


Edited by FazerBoy on Friday 18th December 20:27

pitlane

278 posts

195 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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thatdude said:
Ah, yes, Andy Ibbott, that most famous of MotoGP racers.
If it did contain a lot of the finer detail for current MotoGP riding, then to be honest it wouldn't make sense to 99% of readers. A lot of current MGP riding technique only actually works as they are riding the bike as fast and as agile as they do.

If you get into detail of it with people, even good level racers, they often get pretty confused pretty quickly!

For the average rider / racing fan, Andy's book contains a vast amount of information that they will find really interesting. For a committed trackday rider, I would have thought it's an essential read.

As discussed above, Andy has a wealth of experience, and his book passes that on smile




Edited by pitlane on Friday 18th December 20:58

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Original Poster:

90 posts

223 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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Thank you to all who replied.

I found Andy's FB account and learned a lot about him. He has obviously been left with some serious physical issues following his stroke, but there is no doubt that he is a real fighter. I wish him well for the future and in completing the challenges he has set himself. I have made contact with him via Twitter and am assured that the website my son ordered his book from is genuine.

Dibblecorse, thanks for your kind offer to see if you can get the book signed. That would make it a really special Christmas present. I will PM you shortly.

Once again, thanks all.

Steve Bass

10,517 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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dibblecorse said:
You mean the Andy Ibbott that has coached multiple champions including Tom Luthi in MGP and Leon Camier throughout his career and was also EMEA MD of California Superbike School at its peak ?

Yeah, that one, was Alex Ferguson the best top tier footballer in the UK ? No, is he the most successful domestic manager the UK and most of Europe has ever seen, yes.

To belittle someone because they haven't 'won it' as a participant is to show how ignorant you are of how sport works.

To the OP, Andy is a personal friend of mine and you should have no qualms ordering via that link as thats his storefront, I have all 4 editions as a way of supporting Andy who a few years ago had a stroke whilst under a general anaesthetic for a routine op.

If you want it signed, once the order is placed you can PM through PH and give me the name of who placed the order and i will see if I can get him to do that.
Nicely said.

I was fortunate enough to meet Andy and his team many years ago at Kyalami and he was a very nice and approachable guy.
Tragedy what happened and I hope he's doing well.

As an aside and regarding the subject matter of the book, I do wonder how many of these techniques translate to riding efectively showroom spec superbikes with half decent tyres?? Do you need the tech of a Moto2/GP bike to efffectively employ some facets of the riding described.

poo at Paul's

14,448 posts

189 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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I’ve ordered one, to help support Andy and also as I reckon it will be a good read. Hope he has some tips for fat old men riding on track on ridiculously powerful shopping bikes on touring tyres!

Although I have got the Srad 750 finally finished so maybe that will hit the track next year........?


Anyway, as mentioned by others, Andy is a good guys who’s dedicated his life to rider development and training, was a brilliant ride himself and has trained some seriously top riders in the world championship paddocks. His illness was something that is a nightmare for us all, life and health turned upside down for no apparent reason, family etc left pretty much on their own during recuperation.
I know it will be a good read.

FazerBoy

989 posts

164 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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thatdude said:
Ah, yes, Andy Ibbott, that most famous of MotoGP racers.
Well, at least your snide comment has inspired a post that has led directly to at least two people buying Andy’s book so it’s not all bad...

pitlane

278 posts

195 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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Steve Bass said:
As an aside and regarding the subject matter of the book, I do wonder how many of these techniques translate to riding efectively showroom spec superbikes with half decent tyres?? Do you need the tech of a Moto2/GP bike to efffectively employ some facets of the riding described.
Nope, from what I've seen in the book it's absolutely things you could apply to any half decent bike. Tyres are actually far more important than machine in this respect - you need decent grip to achieve certain aspects of technique - machinery is much less relevant.

In terms of tech, even the latest developments of GP style (that as said above, aren't really covered but you wouldn't want to, as it would just confuse the vast, vast majority of riders) don't need tech to achieve.

Of course some tech (traction & engine braking strategies in particular) will help optimise the benefits, but you don't need either to use the base technique. In fact, this is why you'll often see GP riders practicing on bikes that have no tech, they are using the same riding techniques but the effect is more pronounced, so they can understand it more, and therefore control it better smile



HughiusMaximus

725 posts

140 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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FazerBoy said:
Well, at least your snide comment has inspired a post that has led directly to at least two people buying Andy’s book so it’s not all bad...
Make that three!

graeme4130

3,929 posts

195 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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I bought a copy. It's a good book and there's some good insight into how the little things that make up riding technique can contribute to the bigger improvements
It's worth buying, certainly

poo at Paul's

14,448 posts

189 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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graeme4130 said:
I bought a copy. It's a good book and there's some good insight into how the little things that make up riding technique can contribute to the bigger improvements
It's worth buying, certainly
I think that is something on a different level we all feel when riding, certainly on track.
You can do a half decent lap, and it’s fun and exciting, then if you can summon up the courage, nerve, strength and concentration to get every little bit right or better, suddenly it’s 2 or 3 seconds quicker and a whole new level!
To do that more and more and lap after lap, is impossible for mere mortals but for a brief moment of getting into the next Second down on lap time, we are all moto gp heros!

stang65

444 posts

151 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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A bit off topic, but there was a TV programme featuring Andy a while back. It was called "Employable Me" and featured people who were struggling to gain employment, in Andy's case because of his medical problems. He came across really well in it and a real trier. If you can find the programme anywhere it's definitely worth watching, although there's not much motorcycling in it hence this post is off topic.

dibblecorse

7,075 posts

206 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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stang65 said:
A bit off topic, but there was a TV programme featuring Andy a while back. It was called "Employable Me" and featured people who were struggling to gain employment, in Andy's case because of his medical problems. He came across really well in it and a real trier. If you can find the programme anywhere it's definitely worth watching, although there's not much motorcycling in it hence this post is off topic.
Great program and his stroke cost him so much, he is a definite battler, as area few other PHBB residents and he definitely has courage and willpower beyond any I have had to muster in my life ...

FazerBoy

989 posts

164 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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Received mine today - that was quick!

Andy signed it too - top man!

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

60 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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He was journo for a long time before doing this so had the links to be able to publicise it very well.

Basically the same thing as Keith Code did for many years in the USA.

dibblecorse

7,075 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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@fazerboy, in case my email went to spam, I replied to you, and have pinged Andy