Raising ride height, best way?
Raising ride height, best way?
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gareth h

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4,328 posts

260 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Chaps, advice please, I need to raise the rear ride height of my Diavel to increase ground clearance ( I’m aware of issues with changing geometry). Will these options have the same effect or is one preferable, I have the shock but not sure if it is the best way to increase ride height.

Option 1: Nitron shock with adjustable length, standard gives +12mm, but fittings available to increase this.

Option 2: adjustable linkage like this https://conquestracingltd.com/product/ducabike-duc...

Thanks
G

Biker's Nemesis

41,450 posts

238 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Tie bars, add preload (not ideal) or send your shock to Harris Performance to have a ride height adjuster fitted, that's what I did with my R1-m shock.

gareth h

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4,328 posts

260 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Thanks, sounds best to stick with the Nitron, it’s adjustable by upto 12mm, not sure if this is length or ride height.

ssray

1,360 posts

255 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Also the nitron will be set up for your weight etc, also the stock linkages will be used

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Out of interest why do you need to raise the height? Is it just for seat height, weight or actual ground clearance?

Rubin215 QFSM

4,201 posts

186 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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My choice would be the upgraded shock.

I'm not a fan of adjustable linkages although I have fitted and used various fixed raising/lowering sets over the years; I will freely admit that I can only scratch the surface of the potential changes this makes to grip, handling etc!
Generally, the bike is much better than you ever will be and the factory spent a lot longer designing it than you did, suspension experts have the skills and tech to improve the standard set up relevant to your size/weight/requirements etc.

Adjustable linkages give too much twiddleability; owners have a bad habit of fiddling with things trying to get them right without really appreciating what changes they are making.
It's also one more thing to fail; even the top-notch stuff is introducing another thread/locknut combination that Joe-spannerhands can make a bks of.
I once saw a wonky Blackbird where the owner had fitted a fairly expensive set bought from a reputable American manufacturer.
One side had actually cracked; the only explanation offered was that one side must have been adjusted slightly longer than the other causing "flexing outwith the design tolerances" (or some other mumbo-jumbo...).


Kent Border Kenny

2,219 posts

90 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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gareth h said:
Chaps, advice please, I need to raise the rear ride height of my Diavel to increase ground clearance ( I’m aware of issues with changing geometry). Will these options have the same effect or is one preferable, I have the shock but not sure if it is the best way to increase ride height.

Option 1: Nitron shock with adjustable length, standard gives +12mm, but fittings available to increase this.

Option 2: adjustable linkage like this https://conquestracingltd.com/product/ducabike-duc...

Thanks
G
Ground clearance?

What sort of terrain are you riding on that ground clearance is an issue?

gareth h

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4,328 posts

260 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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anonymous said:
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Yep, dragging my boots / pegs, it’s alright on the quick stuff, but a pain on tight bends and roundabouts.

CousinDupree

818 posts

97 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Tie bars. Dirt cheap and work well.

They don't need to be adjustable.

I had some cut out for an R1-Z, which worked brilliantly and cost a tenner or so.

Biker's Nemesis

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238 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Kent Border Kenny

2,219 posts

90 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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anonymous said:
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Ah, yes, that makes sense.

Tango13

10,145 posts

206 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Can you fit a slightly 'taller' rear tyre? Instead of the standard 240/45 is there a 240/50 available? Going from a 45 to a 50 profile doesn't sound like much of a change but it will lift the rear up by over 20mm

gareth h

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260 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Tango13 said:
Can you fit a slightly 'taller' rear tyre? Instead of the standard 240/45 is there a 240/50 available? Going from a 45 to a 50 profile doesn't sound like much of a change but it will lift the rear up by over 20mm
There’s not much tyre choice at stock sizes, so would prob struggle with 50 profile, the Nitron I’ve got (but not fitted) gives some adjustment, I was interested to know if a new linkage was a better option, it appears not.

Tango13

10,145 posts

206 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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gareth h said:
Tango13 said:
Can you fit a slightly 'taller' rear tyre? Instead of the standard 240/45 is there a 240/50 available? Going from a 45 to a 50 profile doesn't sound like much of a change but it will lift the rear up by over 20mm
There’s not much tyre choice at stock sizes, so would prob struggle with 50 profile, the Nitron I’ve got (but not fitted) gives some adjustment, I was interested to know if a new linkage was a better option, it appears not.
Will altering the geometry cause problems with the chain run over the top of the swingarm?

You're effectively moving the rear sprocket lower in relation to the swingarm pivot point so the chain might rub even more?

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

155 months

Monday 4th January 2021
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I had my old CBR600F4i modified, Wilbers custom shock with additional height adjustment + revised fork with Race Tech parts.

Biker's Nemesis

41,450 posts

238 months

Monday 4th January 2021
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Tango13 said:
Will altering the geometry cause problems with the chain run over the top of the swingarm?

You're effectively moving the rear sprocket lower in relation to the swingarm pivot point so the chain might rub even more?
No, you'd have to move it a lot, I move mine a couple of turns which is err not much.

catso

16,526 posts

297 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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gareth h said:
Yep, dragging my boots / pegs, it’s alright on the quick stuff, but a pain on tight bends and roundabouts.
May not be the advice you want but if this is happening often then, maybe you bought the wrong type of bike... scratchchin

gareth h

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4,328 posts

260 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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catso said:
gareth h said:
Yep, dragging my boots / pegs, it’s alright on the quick stuff, but a pain on tight bends and roundabouts.
May not be the advice you want but if this is happening often then, maybe you bought the wrong type of bike... scratchchin
Nope, happy with the bike, just need to sort this, nothing’s perfect smile