Help Bike swap trouble
Help Bike swap trouble
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matt-wce7a

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1 posts

69 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Hi everyone

This may be bit long and confusing I apologise in advanced but bare with me please

A couple of weeks ago I did a straight swap of my ducati hypermotard for a 2015 ktm 690 smc r.

I saw an advert on face book for the ktm
So I approached him with a swap with the ducati

I told him everything about it mentioned that 9 haven't ridden it since October and it has just been sitting in the garage doing nothing.

I explain all the bad bits ect sent pics and vid of a walk around of the bike also mentioned it didn't have a mot but he was fine with it and get that sorted himself

He was all happy and pushed for the swap to happen

So we went to do the swap I took the bike to him on my trailer
And he had a test ride was happy with it
I gave him a huge amount of spares I had with it
And we then exchanged and did the log books online

Everything was good both happy

About a week later I get a message that the battery and knackered and an exhaust fell off (they were perfectly secure when I left) he claimed to have ridden the bike 2 miles but the pic of the speedo and the mot milage reading had a 35 mile difference also pics on fave book of 2 helmets suggesting a pillion
and he did say he takes a lot of pillion too. He was demanding 200quid for the work I asked for pics and receipt to show it cost 200 quid but he hadn't got the battery or sorted
the exhaust sorted until after I paid him the money he started saying it need 200 to get through the mot which failed first time round for a loose drive chain and that's it.


He also was saying the desmo service was a 1000 miles off but my dashboard said 3200 miles (have a pic to prove) and also saying the bike has a miss fire

But I refused to pay until I saw either pics or receipts
After a day or so he dropped it down to a 100 quid
I still refused and said I would replace the battery out of good will so I sent 50 quid to cover a battery as a good will gesture

He then still moaned it was 50 quid and he would bring the bike back to me then went quiet for a day
The asked if I had in the spares the exhaust system which I swapped which i did and told him it was there

I sent a video of all the spares before I put them in my car and all the parts were there

So last night I received a message he was missing a part so I double checked my boot and garage for it which I do not have so am certain he has it and must of miss placed it or has an altera motive.


But on the flip side his bike isn't perfect I have had to pay money to sort it and understand it is what it is
I had to replace indicators as it has none, a exhaust endcap he did supply one but it was a cheap chineese one which didn't fit which was an expensive dealer part to replace then I noticed the bike didn't even have a front brake light switch on it. So it's cost me over 115quid so far

But his advert lied the more the I looked at the bike
He stated it had a power commander 5, an alarm and a tracker on it guess what it has neither
He also said he was the owner form new but he is the second owner he brought it in 2019

im happy with the ktm I can live with the ktm
But I'm getting fed up with it

Where do I stand is it basically tough for him sold as seen or does he have a case?

Drezza

1,471 posts

84 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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It's sold as seen, block and forget.

You shouldn't have even given him £50 for a battery

CousinDupree

818 posts

97 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Yep, you shouldn't have given him £50. He will keep bothering you now for more.

Aaron702

68 posts

94 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Don't understand why anyone entertains these people. Every private sale is sold as seen, as an individual you have no obligation to give him anything after the sale is done.

jjones

4,490 posts

223 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Aaron702 said:
Don't understand why anyone entertains these people. Every private sale is sold as seen, as an individual you have no obligation to give him anything after the sale is done.
Not strictly true.

In order to avoid any comeback only ever put provable FACTS in the advert (mileage, owners, pictures etc).

Don't put any flim flam like "nice runner, good for many miles".


Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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jjones said:
Aaron702 said:
Don't understand why anyone entertains these people. Every private sale is sold as seen, as an individual you have no obligation to give him anything after the sale is done.
Not strictly true.

In order to avoid any comeback only ever put provable FACTS in the advert (mileage, owners, pictures etc).

Don't put any flim flam like "nice runner, good for many miles".
Unless it can be proven you've deliberately mislead them then you've got nothing to worry about.

In this case he's just chancing it, should've told him to do one from the start.

Drawweight

3,611 posts

146 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Send him the list of parts you had to buy and ask him to give you the cash for them.

Seriously tho’ just ignore him. He’s bound to have known his bike wasn’t perfect either so he’s just a chancer.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

293 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Drezza said:
It's sold as seen, block and forget.

You shouldn't have even given him £50 for a battery
^^^ This

Kindness is often mistaken for weakness

ssray

1,360 posts

255 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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1st thing take any screen shots you can from Facebook or the op's profile or pics
Keep it all in one place memory stick etc just incase
Then block him and forget about it

Cosworth4388

77 posts

115 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Send him a list of all the issues you have with the bike you got from him , tell him you will settle for £150 back which includes £50 as you need a new battery for the KTM .
Also it has a slight miss fire but your willing to let that go .
Seriously either block and ignore him or if you have time play him at his own game .

bluezedd

1,304 posts

112 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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There's nothing worse in selling vehicles than folk who buy second hand vehicles privately but want dealer level support or expect some kind of warranty.

Poor boy shouldn't be buying a ducati (or any vehicle) if he can't afford 200 quid to put into it when he first gets it. Wait til he finds out the brake pads are part-worn too

Ignore and block/tell him to gtf