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Jack.77

Original Poster:

516 posts

74 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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fancied a bit of a project and bought some lml scooter looked like an easy project but been trying to work out what’s wrong with it which is easier said than done not being a scooter person
Automatic starts needs sorting but changed old fuel and spark flag and charged battery.
It then went on the kickstart a few times with easy start then cuts out and then the text time I tried it petrol went everywhere and all over air intake box .now doesn’t go at all
Also seemed odd that the spark plug was missing.maybe someone has already done all the same things

Greg the Fish

1,410 posts

96 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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A scooter? What like a Vespa or Lambretta or something?

Best cure for any issues these have is a few litres of petrol and a match.

You can keep warm and you'll never annoy people again.

Jack.77

Original Poster:

516 posts

74 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Greg the Fish said:
A scooter? What like a Vespa or Lambretta or something?

Best cure for any issues these have is a few litres of petrol and a match.

You can keep warm and you'll never annoy people again.
Yeah its one of those vespa lookalike things with automatic 4T engine.(2016 year and hardly used)
.took a punt of 500 quid on his heap of junk .cant even sell it as project until v5 arrives

Rubin215 QFSM

4,201 posts

186 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Check the fuel hose for obvious splits or leaks, then it's a case of stripping the carb.
My money would be on the float valve being stuck or blocked open by crud so it's not seating properly and then the carb overflowing fuel.


trickywoo

14,237 posts

260 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Aren’t those LML scooters £1500 brand new?

If you still fancy another project after this one you will be much better off with an older jap bike than a Chinese scooter.

Jack.77

Original Poster:

516 posts

74 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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trickywoo said:
Aren’t those LML scooters £1500 brand new?

If you still fancy another project after this one you will be much better off with an older jap bike than a Chinese scooter.
Hi yeah they are around £1500-1800 new but no vary in price
This one I got for 500 has only done 3k and very tidy .appears someone just left it for 2 years in there garden when it was due it’s first mot .not a bad thing but not built like a Honda but a convincing Vespa px copy with modern 4t engine .somehow looks like starter motor needs replacing even though hardly used
Ps it’s not as bad as Chinese stuff but still a bit junky i believe it’s made in India and Japan

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Sounds like it needs a good strip down and check up if it's been sat for so long.

Jack.77

Original Poster:

516 posts

74 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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Did a bit more tinkering with it earlier.now goes for longer and doesn’t cut out as quickly but still not fixed yet .it runs ok for about about a minute then stops and floods engine then won’t go again for about half hour .did put carb cleaner down It aswell .i think the carb might need replacing as the bike seems to be constantly randomly flooding and petrol goes on the floor through the carb draining thingy .

Jack.77

Original Poster:

516 posts

74 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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Also trying to figure out how junky these engines really are (125 4T auto). the carb is keihin Japanese ,I reckon it could be based on a Honda rebranded on the engine casing lml

Rubin215 QFSM

4,201 posts

186 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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The engine will be stalling when the float bowl overfills and floods it, the next step is fuel out of the breather and onto the floor.

Strip the carb and clean it before you spend money on a new one.

Jack.77

Original Poster:

516 posts

74 months

Sunday 31st January 2021
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Just got it running for about 5 minutes and went through all the throttle speeds and now runs without easy start .still cuts out though without throttle and before it cut out with throttle.have cleaned the carb a bit but obviously no expert.seems as though the thing is all over the place

Jack.77

Original Poster:

516 posts

74 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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Also slightly confused how its a 65 reg but registered 2016.it must have been pre registered sitting in a shop for a year ??

lukeyman

1,101 posts

165 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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'65 plate runs from Sept 2015 to March 2016...

Jack.77

Original Poster:

516 posts

74 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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That would explain it then ...
Is there any way of checking mileage is correct without any mot history?
As it seems strange 4 owners would only do 3k but I get the impression various people have trying and failed at getting it working then sold it back on

trickywoo

14,237 posts

260 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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Jack.77 said:
As it seems strange 4 owners would only do 3k but I get the impression various people have trying and failed at getting it working then sold it back on
Four owners in a short period of time and low mileage is a bit of a red flag.

Jack.77

Original Poster:

516 posts

74 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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Apparently these are likely Chinese engines in these so probably a can of worms...seems a lot of money when they first came out (about 1900) when a Honda 125 could be bought for the same price which is far better build quality

Also been looking for another cheap project and it seems to be a common thing that sellers of 50cc-125cc machines can be completely useless or unhelpful .one of the usual things they can say it’s just needs a £15 part and easy fix and then the line that they don’t have time



crofty1984

17,064 posts

234 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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trickywoo said:
Aren’t those LML scooters £1500 brand new?

If you still fancy another project after this one you will be much better off with an older jap bike than a Chinese scooter.
I really fancy having a play with one of those LML Star 2-strokes. Made from the same tooling as the Vespa PX, a hangover from an old licensing deal. Very similar to Royal Enfield up until 2004 or so.

Jack.77

Original Poster:

516 posts

74 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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are Kymco 125 bikes worth bothering with? Apparently they have made engines for Honda in the past but still look slightly cheaply made compared to Honda

Jack.77

Original Poster:

516 posts

74 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Bike ready nearly finished and ready for mot now .next bike project arriving tomorrow not sure what I’ve bought could be a load of rubbish and not worth doing

Biker 1

8,597 posts

149 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Jack.77 said:
are Kymco 125 bikes worth bothering with? Apparently they have made engines for Honda in the past but still look slightly cheaply made compared to Honda
I know a kid with one. 18k miles & pulling strong! Its actually quite well made - sat outside for ages in all weather, & very little corrosion.