WSBK 2025 Predictions

WSBK 2025 Predictions

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Freakuk

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3,839 posts

165 months

Monday 17th February
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Well the season is about to start and JR65 is already out for the season opener this weekend at PI after multiple fractures in his left foot in practice.

I hate to say it, but I think this may be his last year in WSBK, whatever the reason for moving to Yamaha it hasn't paid off for him and he just hasn't gelled with the bike, the last thing he needs his a foot injury right before the first round, he'll be playing catch up all year no doubt now unfortunately and it cannot be fun going from winning 6 titles to being mid-pack.

The smart money has to be on Toprak but I do think Bulega could be nipping at his heals, he has the pace and a year on the bike/team, Bautista feeling like a number 2 now in my eyes.

John D.

19,202 posts

223 months

Monday 17th February
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Toprak fairly comfortably unless he gets injured I think. Can't see Bulega having the pace and race craft to beat him much across the season. Happy to be proved wrong.

graeme4130

3,929 posts

195 months

Monday 17th February
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I suspect it'll be largely between Toprak and Bullega, with TR coming out on top, although not by much
Really impressive first run out for Vickers today too

bergclimber34

1,116 posts

7 months

Monday 17th February
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Cant see past Toprak.

When you think about what he did against the rocket Ducati and Rea, on a bike Rea was abysmal on last year and Bulega also showed up Bautista somewhat, you realise two things, he is wasted in some ways in SBK and he was doing things on that R1 nobody else could, other than perhaps a certain Spainard

Turn7

24,645 posts

235 months

Monday 17th February
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JR out of PI with injury….


Freakuk

Original Poster:

3,839 posts

165 months

Tuesday 18th February
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Turn7 said:
JR out of PI with injury….
Guess you didn't read the first post.......

Turn7

24,645 posts

235 months

Tuesday 18th February
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Freakuk said:
Turn7 said:
JR out of PI with injury….
Guess you didn't read the first post.......
Guilty as charged …

getmecoat

Waynester

6,462 posts

264 months

Tuesday 18th February
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Agree regarding JR possibly calling this his last year.. With top 10 finishes seen as a reasonable result on the Yamaha after a career of 6 titles and regular fighting for wins, cannot be easy for him..

The Yamaha move just hasn’t paid off, and tbh, they still don’t have the performance to compete with the missile Ducati and BMW

TR for the championship I think, Bulega second..

I’m hoping the new Bimota team are competitive as Alex had a good year with some great results on the Kawasaki

slopes

40,457 posts

201 months

Tuesday 18th February
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For the first race, Bulega
For the season...Toprak but only just from Bulega

JR to retire at the end of the year, Redding back to BSB at Honda with Bridewell.

Edited by slopes on Tuesday 18th February 16:46

Drabbesttunic

1,596 posts

54 months

Wednesday 19th February
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Toprak, you just can't look past him, Bulega may run him close but I'm not even sure on that.
Toprak didn't even turn up for 6 races and only retired from one, Bulega retired from 2.

Edited by Drabbesttunic on Wednesday 19th February 09:41

Chipchap

2,633 posts

211 months

Wednesday 19th February
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I think in testing and perhaps in any practise session a lot of teams will be running full chat.

However with the new fuel flow restrictions it may just balance the field out under race conditions. To make horsepower you need fuel and air and of course the ability to fill and scavenge said mixture. If the BMW and Ducati have been able to achieve the big numbers but use a lot of fuel to do this, then perhaps 2025 will see the gaps become closer.

Really keen to see what happens this weekend as factory bikes and private teams alike are all now governed by the fuel flow and the best finishers will be tightly controlled to ensure compliance.

Drabbesttunic

1,596 posts

54 months

Wednesday 19th February
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Ooh yes, I completely forgot about the fuel flow.

Freakuk

Original Poster:

3,839 posts

165 months

Wednesday 19th February
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Chipchap said:
I think in testing and perhaps in any practise session a lot of teams will be running full chat.

However with the new fuel flow restrictions it may just balance the field out under race conditions. To make horsepower you need fuel and air and of course the ability to fill and scavenge said mixture. If the BMW and Ducati have been able to achieve the big numbers but use a lot of fuel to do this, then perhaps 2025 will see the gaps become closer.

Really keen to see what happens this weekend as factory bikes and private teams alike are all now governed by the fuel flow and the best finishers will be tightly controlled to ensure compliance.
I guess there's another fly in the ointment for PI with the tyres, haven't the organisers chosen to have a mandatory tyre swap. That would certainly add another variable into the weekend.

Also, looks like no replacement for JR, simply timing and logistics from Yamaha's statement.

John D.

19,202 posts

223 months

Wednesday 19th February
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Freakuk said:
I guess there's another fly in the ointment for PI with the tyres, haven't the organisers chosen to have a mandatory tyre swap. That would certainly add another variable into the weekend.

Also, looks like no replacement for JR, simply timing and logistics from Yamaha's statement.
According to Paddock Pass Podcast there is a mandatory pit stop, but the new tyres look like they could actually go race distance if they were allowed.

Also rumours that BSB will be running Dunlops next year which is interesting.

graeme4130

3,929 posts

195 months

Wednesday 19th February
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John D. said:
Freakuk said:
I guess there's another fly in the ointment for PI with the tyres, haven't the organisers chosen to have a mandatory tyre swap. That would certainly add another variable into the weekend.

Also, looks like no replacement for JR, simply timing and logistics from Yamaha's statement.
According to Paddock Pass Podcast there is a mandatory pit stop, but the new tyres look like they could actually go race distance if they were allowed.

Also rumours that BSB will be running Dunlops next year which is interesting.
Re Dunlops in BSB : There's definitely some testing going on, but ultimately, it'll boil down to how deep they're willing to dig into their pockets to be sole supplier over Pirelli
Personally, the Pirelli's are a good tyre for racing, and gone are the days where they give their best over the first 3 laps and the rest is just a game of holding on
Also, teams get a pretty decent deal on Pirelli's at BSB (think circa £330 a pair + VAT depending on class), so if they do change, I really hope they keep a similar price structure or it'll make the annual costs go up massively - SSP is around £25k a year on tyres alone currently

Edited by graeme4130 on Wednesday 19th February 22:51

slopes

40,457 posts

201 months

Friday 21st February
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I see Taz McKenzie's new team mate is currently waaay way off the pace in first practice, he is almost 7 seconds down on Bulega's time

Freakuk

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3,839 posts

165 months

Friday 21st February
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Bulega setting the pace I see.

Also saw that JR will miss round 2 (Portimao).

towser44

3,823 posts

129 months

Friday 21st February
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Just read that re Rea. Yamaha boss confirmed no chance he is fit for Portimao. What a disaster to start the season for the lad :-(

Freakuk

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3,839 posts

165 months

Friday 21st February
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towser44 said:
Just read that re Rea. Yamaha boss confirmed no chance he is fit for Portimao. What a disaster to start the season for the lad :-(
I literally said the same thing on the post above ^^

towser44

3,823 posts

129 months

Friday 21st February
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Freakuk said:
towser44 said:
Just read that re Rea. Yamaha boss confirmed no chance he is fit for Portimao. What a disaster to start the season for the lad :-(
I literally said the same thing on the post above ^^
I know, I was responding to your post but forgot to quote it :-)