A non-biker’s Q: how difficult is this?
A non-biker’s Q: how difficult is this?
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BlackTails

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1,801 posts

72 months

Sunday 2nd March
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Often liked the idea of a bike. Never acted on it. I had a teenage friend who ended badly on one. That’s probably been at the back of my mind.

Anyway, enough about me.

For those who do ride, how hard is it to get a bike into this position (from the BBC today)?



I imagine it takes a mix of ability, nerve/faith, and equipment. Obviously the last one on its own won’t get you far, but I imagine (again) that on many bikes (most?) doing this simply isn’t possible no matter how much of the first two you have.

So what’s the balance of the mixture? And is more than those three things needed - if so what?

TIA

carinaman

23,406 posts

189 months

Sunday 2nd March
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Experience.

That video of the new Desmo less Ducati V2 vee twin motorcycle that can be used on the road or track. It's three riders who have raced who are now motorcycling journalists. I thought of that video as one of the videos of it I've watched mentioned Zack getting his elbow down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsJvTD6f_hM

LeftmostAardvark

1,723 posts

181 months

Sunday 2nd March
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BlackTails said:
Often liked the idea of a bike. Never acted on it. I had a teenage friend who ended badly on one. That’s probably been at the back of my mind.

Anyway, enough about me.

For those who do ride, how hard is it to get a bike into this position (from the BBC today)?



I imagine it takes a mix of ability, nerve/faith, and equipment. Obviously the last one on its own won’t get you far, but I imagine (again) that on many bikes (most?) doing this simply isn’t possible no matter how much of the first two you have.

So what’s the balance of the mixture? And is more than those three things needed - if so what?

TIA
It’s really easy. It’s what happens afterwards that makes it hard. Getting your knee or elbow down is no problem, getting the bike back upright (ideally with you on it), is the bit that takes more practice.

BlackTails

Original Poster:

1,801 posts

72 months

Sunday 2nd March
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LeftmostAardvark said:
It’s really easy. It’s what happens afterwards that makes it hard. Getting your knee or elbow down is no problem, getting the bike back upright (ideally with you on it), is the bit that takes more practice.
Good answer!

ThreadKiller

422 posts

112 months

Sunday 2nd March
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Took me about 35 years of riding to get my knee down… accidents excepted…

catso

15,279 posts

284 months

Sunday 2nd March
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BlackTails said:
LeftmostAardvark said:
It’s really easy. It’s what happens afterwards that makes it hard. Getting your knee or elbow down is no problem, getting the bike back upright (ideally with you on it), is the bit that takes more practice.
Good answer!
yes I've been that far over before, only trouble is it wasn't exactly planned and I didn't get back up... irked

Pope

2,652 posts

264 months

Sunday 2nd March
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Spoilt as a lad in the late 90's with access to the pocket rocket grey import market - CBR400RR; VFR NC30; GSX400RR and ZXR400H and the last of the 'usable' 2 stroke race rep's: RGV and NSR 250's meant many an evening going round and round and round this:


T6 vanman

3,288 posts

116 months

Sunday 2nd March
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Worked just off there at long gone Flexello's ...
Although I preferred the challenging left and right downhill after the Goldfinger ... Happy days smile

Edited by T6 vanman on Sunday 2nd March 21:32

OldGermanHeaps

4,704 posts

195 months

Sunday 2nd March
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Much easier to do it on some bikes than others.
Sick of sports bikes though, especially with the state of roads now.

Pebbles167

4,194 posts

169 months

Sunday 2nd March
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A road bike generally won't have quite the lean angle of a Moto GP bike, so elbow (whilst possible) will be tricky and perhaps pointless since your body position will be weird.

Getting your knee down is easy enough though. Amusing for the road, and something that just happens on track.

Get yourself a sporty bike with high pegs and hammer the nearest roundabout when it's quiet. Get half your arse off the bike, point your knee, get your head and shoulders inline with the mirror and lean, you'll get it before long.

OldGermanHeaps

4,704 posts

195 months

Sunday 2nd March
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What 125s would suit getting your knee down on now?
Not paid attention to the 125 market since the 90s
The aprilia rs125 was great, an absolute laugh at more sensible speeds.

LuS1fer

42,742 posts

262 months

Sunday 2nd March
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Slicks. Racing tyres.

Honda Super Dream. Not so much.

wc98

12,024 posts

157 months

Sunday 2nd March
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If you just want to have fun melting plastic get a cbr400rr. I live in a town with more roundabouts than you can shake a stick at and it was a great little bike for an afternoon of knee down fun. In my case i was probably going slower than just riding the corner without hanging off but that wasn't the point biggrin

KTMsm

28,982 posts

280 months

Monday 3rd March
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I've seen videos of lads getting huge lean angles whilst going relatively slowly in car parks

The biggest problem playing with bikes - as opposed to cars - is : experience hurts


2ndclasscitizen

429 posts

134 months

Monday 3rd March
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KTMsm said:
I've seen videos of lads getting huge lean angles whilst going relatively slowly in car parks
Al Fagan put a clip up on Insta this morning of him getting caught out by another journo mugging for the camera. Guy was full lean elbow down the whole lot but absolutely crawling.

srob

12,195 posts

255 months

Tuesday 4th March
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2ndclasscitizen said:
Al Fagan put a clip up on Insta this morning of him getting caught out by another journo mugging for the camera. Guy was full lean elbow down the whole lot but absolutely crawling.
But answering the OP that's pretty difficult too hehe