Steve Moto Morini 3 1/2 R.I.P.
Steve Moto Morini 3 1/2 R.I.P.
Author
Discussion

SS427 Camaro

Original Poster:

7,723 posts

186 months

Friday 27th June
quotequote all
Steve’s funeral was last week. Sadly he succumbed to injuries received when a Tesla turned in front of him whilst on his much loved Morini 3 1/2 in Essex.
He wore an open face crash helmet & goggles. I won’t go into the details, however if he had been wearing a decent full face helmet he would likely be here today.
You may think you look cool in an open face lid & goggles, but think again…..

smifffymoto

5,107 posts

221 months

Friday 27th June
quotequote all
A very sad end to what sounds like a preventable outcome.

I don’t really know why open face helmets haven’t been made illegal,there must have been a mountain of research done on their effectiveness versus a full face helmet.

black-k1

12,479 posts

245 months

Friday 27th June
quotequote all
Very sad to hear for all involved.

Motorcycling can be dangerous and we must all take the appropriate amount of care. However, we must all be careful of judging others choices lest our own choices be judged. The safest motorcycle is one you are unable to ride at all!

Mr Dendrite

2,353 posts

226 months

Friday 27th June
quotequote all
Very sad to hear. It’s been a bad summer so far in East Anglia. Three motorcyclists were killed last week in Cambridgeshire in separate incidents. Not a lot of details but one involved a car driver on drugs and the other two seem to be “smidsy”

SS427 Camaro

Original Poster:

7,723 posts

186 months

Friday 27th June
quotequote all
smifffymoto said:
A very sad end to what sounds like a preventable outcome.

I don t really know why open face helmets haven t been made illegal,there must have been a mountain of research done on their effectiveness versus a full face helmet.
I feel the same, the thought of sliding down the road on my face just has no appeal

SS427 Camaro

Original Poster:

7,723 posts

186 months

Friday 27th June
quotequote all
Mr Dendrite said:
Very sad to hear. It s been a bad summer so far in East Anglia. Three motorcyclists were killed last week in Cambridgeshire in separate incidents. Not a lot of details but one involved a car driver on drugs and the other two seem to be smidsy
Dreadful news.

Rushjob

2,208 posts

274 months

Friday 27th June
quotequote all
Can't even let the soil start to settle on the poor guys grave before you get in there slagging off how he chose to live his life and enjoy his motorcycling.

What on earth makes you think that this is the time or the place for such comment

RIP Steve, I hope none of your friends or family are unfortunate enough to read this thread.

ThreadKiller

422 posts

111 months

Friday 27th June
quotequote all
I agree.

smifffymoto

5,107 posts

221 months

Friday 27th June
quotequote all
Rushjob said:
Can't even let the soil start to settle on the poor guys grave before you get in there slagging off how he chose to live his life and enjoy his motorcycling.

What on earth makes you think that this is the time or the place for such comment

RIP Steve, I hope none of your friends or family are unfortunate enough to read this thread.
Nobody is slagging off or pointing fingers at anybody.
If you read that in too it,that's up to.

Dick Seaman

1,090 posts

239 months

Saturday 28th June
quotequote all
It's really rather straightforward to read that into it. The OP was sad for a bit, then blamed the deceased for choosing fashion over function. You doubled down by using the word preventable.

I think black-k1 summed it up best.

Hugo Stiglitz

39,528 posts

227 months

Saturday 28th June
quotequote all
RIP I like many often ride lid up on my flip helmet. Of course lid goes down at a certain point but those sudden events sometimes offer no warning. Think I'll keep it down unless it's 30c+

A rider died on the A82 near Glencoe also this week involving a camper van frown (edit camper van driver arrested for road traffic offence. No doubt death by dangerous)

Edited by Hugo Stiglitz on Saturday 28th June 12:19

swanseaboydan

2,032 posts

179 months

Saturday 28th June
quotequote all
That’s awful news.
I’ve been wearing an open face for 35 years and have had 2 relatively minor accidents. For me city riding with an open face I felt was safer as the visibility and awareness was that much better.

slopes

40,610 posts

203 months

Saturday 28th June
quotequote all
I used to always wear full face and once i started using a mountian bike to go downhill faster than someone my age has any right to go, i used a full face for that too.

SS427 Camaro

Original Poster:

7,723 posts

186 months

Sunday 29th June
quotequote all
slopes said:
I used to always wear full face and once i started using a mountian bike to go downhill faster than someone my age has any right to go, i used a full face for that too.
I swapped to a full face on my MTB bike as well. A pro cyclist pal went down on his forehead, wearing a peanut cycle lid, he looked like Frankensteins monster when he came out of hospital,

SS427 Camaro

Original Poster:

7,723 posts

186 months

Sunday 29th June
quotequote all
Hugo Stiglitz said:
RIP I like many often ride lid up on my flip helmet. Of course lid goes down at a certain point but those sudden events sometimes offer no warning. Think I'll keep it down unless it's 30c+

A rider died on the A82 near Glencoe also this week involving a camper van frown (edit camper van driver arrested for road traffic offence. No doubt death by dangerous)

Edited by Hugo Stiglitz on Saturday 28th June 12:19
Sad news.

Birky_41

4,415 posts

200 months

Monday 30th June
quotequote all
Never something you want to hear. Rip

the cueball

1,535 posts

71 months

Monday 30th June
quotequote all
Hugo Stiglitz said:
RIP I like many often ride lid up on my flip helmet. Of course lid goes down at a certain point but those sudden events sometimes offer no warning. Think I'll keep it down unless it's 30c+

A rider died on the A82 near Glencoe also this week involving a camper van frown (edit camper van driver arrested for road traffic offence. No doubt death by dangerous)

Edited by Hugo Stiglitz on Saturday 28th June 12:19
I think that is #19 this year so far in Scotland... frown

Hugo Stiglitz

39,528 posts

227 months

Monday 30th June
quotequote all
the cueball said:
I think that is #19 this year so far in Scotland... frown
fk

aeropilot

38,466 posts

243 months

Monday 30th June
quotequote all
swanseaboydan said:
That s awful news.
I ve been wearing an open face for 35 years and have had 2 relatively minor accidents. For me city riding with an open face I felt was safer as the visibility and awareness was that much better.
For me it was as much about the riding position.
On many older classic type machine, or a lot of cruiser type bikes with high/wide bars, wearing a full face really limits being able to do life saver checks, as your arm position means the lower chin section of the helmet hits your shoulder and limits what you can see behind.

I went from riding a classic British bike in an open face, to a Ducati Monster, and then bought a full face for riding that, which was no problem.

After the Monster was stolen, a few years later I bought a Harley Dyna, and the low ape hanger bars and forward controls put your head shoulder position in such that it was impossible to do traditional shoulder checks in a full face, and the helmet hit your shoulder and I had to go back to using an open face.

While I never considered wearing an open face on the Monster, I felt unsafer wearing a full face on the Harley due to the restricted view.




swanseaboydan

2,032 posts

179 months

Monday 30th June
quotequote all
That is exactly the same for me