Code reader for Fantic / bikes in general.
Code reader for Fantic / bikes in general.
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Furbo

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2,877 posts

53 months

Saturday
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After 30 blissful miles I’ve got an engine management light showing on my 2-day old Fantic.

Rather than take it back to the dealer immediately I might just buy a reader off Amazon.

Is there a go-to reader for bikes? I probably should buy one that works on cars too. We’ve some German cars that periodically throw up faults.

Any recommendations appreciated.

trickywoo

13,449 posts

251 months

Saturday
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Furbo said:
After 30 blissful miles I ve got an engine management light showing on my 2-day old Fantic.

Rather than take it back to the dealer immediately I might just buy a reader off Amazon.

Is there a go-to reader for bikes? I probably should buy one that works on cars too. We ve some German cars that periodically throw up faults.

Any recommendations appreciated.
What a downer after the excitement of a new bike.

Can’t help on the reader but make sure the battery is in good condition. Although it’s new it could have gone flat sitting around and while a charge will get it to start the bike the amps could be way down. Modern bike electrics don’t seem to like weak batteries and will throw random codes.

Orchardab

711 posts

147 months

Saturday
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Are Norton building Fantic’s?

Furbo

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2,877 posts

53 months

Saturday
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TBH I was concerned when buying my first Italian that I would have issues. I am hoping it isn't going to be the start of a saga.

I've done all the stuff I found online: Cycling the ignition, leaving it idling, disconnecting the battery. The light persists, alongside occasional random error messages.

One says "620 miles left" but doesn't share with me "until what". It could be anything: Explosion, my life expectancy, the second coming of Jesus. Anything.


trickywoo

13,449 posts

251 months

Saturday
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The 620 miles will be the running in period.

My money is still on the battery.

Furbo

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2,877 posts

53 months

Saturday
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trickywoo said:
The 620 miles will be the running in period.

My money is still on the battery.
Think I should stick the C-tek on it overnight? Do they need disconnecting beforehand?

trickywoo

13,449 posts

251 months

Saturday
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Furbo said:
Think I should stick the C-tek on it overnight? Do they need disconnecting beforehand?
If access is ok you don’t need to disconnect it. Can’t hurt to put it on a smart charger.

I speak from experience with the battery. I got a new bike with a yuassa and it was iffy from the off. It started the bike but threw a lot of random codes. As soon as I fitted a new battery all that stopped.

Furbo

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2,877 posts

53 months

Saturday
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trickywoo said:
Furbo said:
Think I should stick the C-tek on it overnight? Do they need disconnecting beforehand?
If access is ok you don t need to disconnect it. Can t hurt to put it on a smart charger.

I speak from experience with the battery. I got a new bike with a yuassa and it was iffy from the off. It started the bike but threw a lot of random codes. As soon as I fitted a new battery all that stopped.
Thanks. I've put it on. Showing 3 lights out of however many it is. Not always a sure sign, but could be that the battery is flat-ish.

I spoke to the dealer's mechanic earlier and the first words off his lips were "did it start ok" and he then continued with battery-related stuff. So, perhaps low battery is a regular problem.

I'll see how it is in the morning. I am assuming I may need to disconnect the battery again to reset the ECU.





PT1984

3,099 posts

204 months

Yesterday (10:31)
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When did the light come on? You’d have thought if anything the ride would have topped up the battery.

Furbo

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2,877 posts

53 months

Yesterday (10:51)
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PT1984 said:
When did the light come on? You d have thought if anything the ride would have topped up the battery.
The start of yesterday's ride.

The battery was 3 orange light when I put the C-tek on, which suggests low charge. When I checked earlier all the orange lights were lit. It's yet to go to green.

Now that I have had an error, I was able to Google it and it seems it is a not uncommon problem. I think they are a bit "excitable".

hiccy18

3,614 posts

88 months

Yesterday (11:07)
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In fairness, I get similar issues with my BMW: whenever the battery is a bit low I get random check lights. Would have taken 20s to check battery voltage during PDI.

Groomio

37 posts

1 month

Yesterday (11:18)
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There's a Fantic Caballero Owners Club UK on Facebook, might be worth a look

https://www.facebook.com/groups/645559282581295/?l...

Regbuser

6,156 posts

56 months

Yesterday (11:26)
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Bookmarked for ensuing entertainment value jester

Furbo

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2,877 posts

53 months

Yesterday (12:10)
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Regbuser said:
Bookmarked for ensuing entertainment value jester
On a sort of "haha he bought an Italian bike, pass the popcorn" way?

Furbo

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2,877 posts

53 months

Yesterday (14:43)
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trickywoo said:
The 620 miles will be the running in period.

My money is still on the battery.

You win the prize. Thank you.

trickywoo

13,449 posts

251 months

Yesterday (18:48)
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Furbo said:

You win the prize. Thank you.
Pleased it’s just that.

I don’t know why bikes are so sensitive to a brief under voltage or why there can’t be a buffer built in before they throw codes.

Although mine starts ok if the battery isn’t 100% it will throw every code it can think of.

srob

12,301 posts

259 months

Yesterday (19:39)
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trickywoo said:
Pleased it s just that.

I don t know why bikes are so sensitive to a brief under voltage or why there can t be a buffer built in before they throw codes.

Although mine starts ok if the battery isn t 100% it will throw every code it can think of.
The light is the buffer, I guess?

PT1984

3,099 posts

204 months

Yesterday (21:10)
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It’s not because Italian. Did they do the software update before they delivered it?

Furbo

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2,877 posts

53 months

Yesterday (21:46)
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PT1984 said:
It s not because Italian. Did they do the software update before they delivered it?
Which one specifically?

PT1984

3,099 posts

204 months

Yesterday (22:25)
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Im sure you said in your other thread the dealer were giving it a software update before delivery?