motorcycle number plates

[okenemem]

I’ve been out riding as the weather has been great.

I have been on a few group rides where I encountered all kinds of riders. Over the last week, I’ve seen:

Small plates;

Riders with no plates at all;

Riders with plates that flip at the press of a hidden button (real 007 stuff);

The usual "flip and dip" riders;

And most recently, I’ve come across people riding with made-up number plates (e.g., plates that don't exist).

I questioned all of them, and apart from the guy with the switch, they were all adamant that they would not receive points for any of these offenses—only a fine.

is there any truth to this

[Opapayer]

It’s bks. They’ll get the book thrown at them. Loads of people tell you that they’ve found a loophole, they rarely have and the punishment for what they’ve done is often far greater than what they’d have received had they just ridden with a legal and correct numberplate.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/biker-...

[trickywoo]

The cops love nothing more than a PCoJ charge.

Trouble with a fake plate or those flip ones is if something else happens and you get caught with one it’s going to be a lot more serious.

I’ve just coincidentally seen a police appeal for a bike with no plate on FB for likely speed on the A25. It’s a distinctive bike and leather combo so I’d guess at the very least he’ll need to bin the leathers and helmet.

[okenemem]

i actually know alot of people with flip plates and ive seen them just get fines

same with those who ride with no plate

the argument is , they would rather the fine than the points

[okenemem]

Opapayer said:

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/biker-...

london plod dont have time for this

[Opapayer]

okenemem said:

i actually know alot of people with flip plates and ive seen them just get fines

same with those who ride with no plate

the argument is , they would rather the fine than the points

To summarise, you’re not really asking the question you claim to be in the OP, you’re just telling us what you’re going to do and looking for some on here to agree with you. Be brave. If you’re going to do it, just do it. It’s not like this thread would be a viable defence if you do get charged.

[okenemem]

What you have quoted is me saying I have seen, with my own eyes, people receive fines when pulled over by police.

This means I know what happens when you ride with no plate or a flip plate: YOU WILL NOT GET POINTS.
It was the other options in my OP that I wanted clarification for. Please, if you are not going to contribute anything useful, I would rather you not comment at all

[Bob_Defly]

okenemem said:

i actually know alot of people with flip plates

I don't know anyone who does this as I don't ride with idiots.

[Panamax]

Loads of flipped up plates around my way. As with everything else on two wheels the authorities don't seem to give a damn. Unregistered electric bikes doing 40mph for starters.

[Opapayer]

okenemem said:

What you have quoted is me saying I have seen, with my own eyes, people receive fines when pulled over by police.

This means I know what happens when you ride with no plate or a flip plate: YOU WILL NOT GET POINTS.
It was the other options in my OP that I wanted clarification for. Please, if you are not going to contribute anything useful, I would rather you not comment at all

I gave you a specific case where someone covered their plate and the consequences of doing so. I’m translating your last sentence as “if you’re not going to agree with me, then please don’t comment as I can’t cope”.

[okenemem]

Opapayer said:

I gave you a specific case where someone covered their plate and the consequences of doing so. I m translating your last sentence as if you re not going to agree with me, then please don t comment as I can t cope .

BINGO

[Opapayer]

okenemem said:

Opapayer said:

I gave you a specific case where someone covered their plate and the consequences of doing so. I m translating your last sentence as if you re not going to agree with me, then please don t comment as I can t cope .

BINGO

So now you’re admitting that you just want people to agree with you and you can’t cope when they don’t. Do you need a hug?

[Drawweight]

Curious as to the answer to this.

If a bike is stopped and is found to have the mechanism for a flip up plate fitted but it wasn’t used during the stop. Is this still an offence?

[CHLEMCBC]

Drawweight said:

Curious as to the answer to this.

If a bike is stopped and is found to have the mechanism for a flip up plate fitted but it wasn t used during the stop. Is this still an offence?

technically it could probably be construed as an attempt to PCOJ but I think that would probably never get to court if it wasn't seen in use. (IANAL or plod)

[Inspire]

trickywoo said:

The cops love nothing more than a PCoJ charge.

Trouble with a fake plate or those flip ones is if something else happens and you get caught with one it s going to be a lot more serious.

I ve just coincidentally seen a police appeal for a bike with no plate on FB for likely speed on the A25. It s a distinctive bike and leather combo so I d guess at the very least he ll need to bin the leathers and helmet.

I saw the police appeal as well and, yes, I’m sure they will catch-up. Really distinctive bike.

[jrich123]

This vid gives a solicitors (White Dalton) view on the flip plates...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO9AWk4A310

[Hugo Stiglitz]

okenemem said:

i actually know alot of people with flip plates and ive seen them just get fines

same with those who ride with no plate

the argument is , they would rather the fine than the points

Flip plates is PcoJ. That s not just a fine. Plus the bike would be examined for mods/declared mods and insurer made aware. The mindset of the flip plate rider for me is they are a liability and a danger on the road.

Take it to track days

[SS427 Camaro]

jrich123 said:

This vid gives a solicitors (White Dalton) view on the flip plates...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO9AWk4A310

I wouldn’t go near this co with a barge pole…..

[SS427 Camaro]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

Flip plates is PcoJ. That s not just a fine. Plus the bike would be examined for mods/declared mods and insurer made aware. The mindset of the flip plate rider for me is they are a liability and a danger on the road.

Take it to track days

How do you know it would be “ examined “ ??

[John D.]

SS427 Camaro said:

I wouldn t go near this co with a barge pole ..

Do tell.