Getting your knee down is illegal
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Not illegal per se but they classed it as riding without due care and attention (in the screenshot).
Who knows what the riding before that was like which might have altered the officer's attitude. It's not as if they're carrying a massive lean angle and associated speed, but it would be a lot slower to respond to emerging dangers. And they're a learner.
Bit harsh on the face of it, and in isolation. A stern word and a logged warning if thete is such a thing feels more appropriate.
Who knows what the riding before that was like which might have altered the officer's attitude. It's not as if they're carrying a massive lean angle and associated speed, but it would be a lot slower to respond to emerging dangers. And they're a learner.
Bit harsh on the face of it, and in isolation. A stern word and a logged warning if thete is such a thing feels more appropriate.
I don't think these seemingly gloating posts from the various road policing units, do the Police any favours. Especially when they compliment him on his attitude.
You wonder whether a quiet word in his ear would have been more appropriate, rather than finding something that they could prosecute him for.
You wonder whether a quiet word in his ear would have been more appropriate, rather than finding something that they could prosecute him for.
"There is nothing which makes getting a knee down illegal."
"I would always suggest the motorcyclist puts safety first when riding on the roads and if they can incorporate knee down into this, safely and correctly to negotiate a bend, I can fully understand why they would do this."
(Inspector Colin Reid, Head of Road Policing and Driver Training, Police Scotland.)
Source: https://www.devittinsurance.com/guides/motorcycle-...
"I would always suggest the motorcyclist puts safety first when riding on the roads and if they can incorporate knee down into this, safely and correctly to negotiate a bend, I can fully understand why they would do this."
(Inspector Colin Reid, Head of Road Policing and Driver Training, Police Scotland.)
Source: https://www.devittinsurance.com/guides/motorcycle-...
Living in Milton Keynes, when it was still being built/expanding, the road were all developed long before the housing estates came. There were endless freshly surfaced roundabouts (with no pot holes or gravel) and no cars using them, was a dream 
for me and my mates on a summers evening.
The roundabout now where I had my first 'touch down' is completely ruined, not been touched in 30 years. In fact there are only a couple ones in MK that are good enough now, and sadly have been further ruined by the addition of traffic lights, as they continue to ruin MK's playground, sorry... Roads.
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for me and my mates on a summers evening.The roundabout now where I had my first 'touch down' is completely ruined, not been touched in 30 years. In fact there are only a couple ones in MK that are good enough now, and sadly have been further ruined by the addition of traffic lights, as they continue to ruin MK's playground, sorry... Roads.
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When I've done RoSPA training before with Police or ex Police riders and asked about knee down on the road, they have said although its not really necessary to make quick progress on the road, its not illegal and up to the observing officer to decide if it was dangerous/careless. We dont know what the lad had been doing beforehand, although I'm sure being on L plates does not help 
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
To contrast this, when I did my BikeSafe in London, the police on that course were adamant you would be pulled by them for knee down. Their reasoning was that if you had knee down, you were leaning the bike to the absolute maximum and had no margin for error left.
And yet, as we can see in the title picture, that's not true! You can be a hero and get a knee down while barely leaning the bike with the right techniqueMarquezs Stabilisers said:
To contrast this, when I did my BikeSafe in London, the police on that course were adamant you would be pulled by them for knee down. Their reasoning was that if you had knee down, you were leaning the bike to the absolute maximum and had no margin for error left.
I’m not sure I’d want to be coached in riding safely by someone who spouted such utter b
ks as that. One of the fundamentalprinciples of how you position your body in such a way (ie hanging off) that leads to knee down (not necessarily requiring or resulting in) is to keep the bike more upright so that it’s NOT leant to its absolute maximum.
Krikkit said:
And yet, as we can see in the title picture, that's not true! You can be a hero and get a knee down while barely leaning the bike with the right technique
I agree...but I'm not armed with a warrant card and that really is the trump card. The Q&A wasn't really a discussion...it was how they were going to enforce the law, as they saw it. I've just noticed that there's 3 of them.
Whilst I fking hate the road police and this type of stupid social media post I'm going to assume that there was more to this than just one instance of hanging off the side of the bike on a roundabout.
I wear jeans so no matter how much lean I've got on I'm not putting my knee down unless I've fallen off
Whilst I f
king hate the road police and this type of stupid social media post I'm going to assume that there was more to this than just one instance of hanging off the side of the bike on a roundabout. I wear jeans so no matter how much lean I've got on I'm not putting my knee down unless I've fallen off
Edited by s p a c e m a n on Monday 20th July 12:15
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