will the new EU Licencing Laws affect you?
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To be honest, I think SOMETHING had to be done, although not necessarily these ones. I still can't get over the fact that I can pass my DAS, and go out and buy any bike I want... after just 4, 1 hour lessons. I didn't even get taught about counter steering, so it hardly prepares me for life on the road. Mind you, not that 3 years age difference is a lot.
chilli said:
To be honest, I think SOMETHING had to be done, although not necessarily these ones. I still can't get over the fact that I can pass my DAS, and go out and buy any bike I want... after just 4, 1 hour lessons. I didn't even get taught about counter steering, so it hardly prepares me for life on the road. Mind you, not that 3 years age difference is a lot.
Likewise, you can go out and drive a Ferrari, Lambo, Aston, etc., or a minibus, people carrier etc. with nothing more than a driving test. (there is no legal requirements for lessons, let alone lessons with a qualified instructor.) You don't even go on a Motorway!
Something does need to be done but not just to bikes, and in all honesty, not just for new drivers/riders. Perhaps we all need regular re-testing, more often if you have less experience, and perhaps, like pilots, we also need “type” training/testing. Limiting what someone can drive simply because of their age (not their driving experience) really is a very big sledgehammer for a very small nut.
black-k1 said:
Likewise, you can go out and drive a Ferrari, Lambo, Aston, etc., or a minibus, people carrier etc. with nothing more than a driving test.
Something does need to be done but not just to bikes, and in all honesty, not just for new drivers/riders. Perhaps we all need regular re-testing, more often if you have less experience, and perhaps, like pilots, we also need “type” training/testing. Limiting what someone can drive simply because of their age (not their driving experience) really is a very big sledgehammer for a very small nut.
Agree but I think 21 is already plenty late enough as an age requirement for large bikes (has been like this in Italy for many years) but proper training would be more appropriate - without dumbing-down, speed kills or social inclusion etc , as usual no-one has thought sensibly about this and the result is the usual ill-thought out knee-jerk type reaction.
It may reduce biker deaths slightly, simply by reducing the number of bikers on the road but it won't help in that there'll be even more poorly trained car drivers (without the benefit of having ridden bikes) to kill us
But the legislation won't affect me, as I took my bike test in the 70's
This is a disgusting piece of legislation, this really smells like they're just trying to 
bikers off the road.
If there can be such tough standards for bikers, why not for all the idiots that knock us off our bikes? I'm all for more training and better riding / driving standards if they are applied consistently and fairly.
Whilst I passed my bike test years ago and will not be affected by this as an individual, we're all going to be affected as the motorcycling community suffers as a whole. Very sad news this
bikers off the road. If there can be such tough standards for bikers, why not for all the idiots that knock us off our bikes? I'm all for more training and better riding / driving standards if they are applied consistently and fairly.
Whilst I passed my bike test years ago and will not be affected by this as an individual, we're all going to be affected as the motorcycling community suffers as a whole. Very sad news this
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