Datatool gear inidicators
Discussion
Its in having it done at present. Will see what its like in an hour or so.
I understand that there's a big of lag, however, you still know what gear your in as its shown before the previous change (if you get what I mean).
Suspect on road it will make not a blind bit of difference, however on track when you don't want to change into 1st & lock rear wheel, etc, etc, then it will be more useful.
If nothing else, its a new toy !!!
I understand that there's a big of lag, however, you still know what gear your in as its shown before the previous change (if you get what I mean).
Suspect on road it will make not a blind bit of difference, however on track when you don't want to change into 1st & lock rear wheel, etc, etc, then it will be more useful.
If nothing else, its a new toy !!!
It's one of the few mods I usually do to my bikes; Gear indicator, braided hoses and crash bobbins (R&G)
Handy on motorways for reminding you you're only in fourth on a 1000 or that you're definitely in sixth on a 600.
I've used the Datatool one but my R1 and Aprilia both have the Acumen equivalent as you can get it in blue (matches the R1 clocks)
>> Edited by rsvmilly on Monday 8th May 13:24
Handy on motorways for reminding you you're only in fourth on a 1000 or that you're definitely in sixth on a 600.
I've used the Datatool one but my R1 and Aprilia both have the Acumen equivalent as you can get it in blue (matches the R1 clocks)
>> Edited by rsvmilly on Monday 8th May 13:24
I like the look of the translogic one, with shiftlight, lap timer etc although it is a bit more pricey.
www.translogicuk.com/in_detail.htm
www.translogicuk.com/in_detail.htm
I also fancied one of these, handy I thought when you approach a very tight corner and need to change down several gears quickly to keep the engine on the boil for a smooth entry/exit the question of delay in showing the correct gear has put me off somewhat, suppose I will have to keep on counting those downshifts then.
I like the idea of one as they look quite cool but I've never understood the point of them really. You don't *need* to actually know what gear you're in - as long as the revs are giving you the power desired then I'm happy.
I guess it would be handy on a motorway however....
Am I missing something? Bear in mind I would quite like one - can someone persuade me that they're usefull?
I guess it would be handy on a motorway however....
Am I missing something? Bear in mind I would quite like one - can someone persuade me that they're usefull?
i've only had my licence for 2 weeks so maybe i'm doing it wrong...but if i'm riding fast, and for example i'm slowing down "forcefully" for a roundabout, i'd love to be able to switch straight to 2nd (seems a nice gear to go round most roundabouts in) from 4/5/6 or whatever gear i'm in, in a block change, cos i don't have time to change gear, engage clutch, check power/revs, etc for each gear. And it wastes time to go all the way to 1st then up one gear...
i know they teach you - or at least, they taught me - to change only one gear at a time, but it is so tediously slow sometimes!
i know they teach you - or at least, they taught me - to change only one gear at a time, but it is so tediously slow sometimes!
muffles said:
i've only had my licence for 2 weeks so maybe i'm doing it wrong ... i'd love to be able to switch straight to 2nd from 4/5/6 or whatever gear
That is a habit you really don't want to pick up especially as you ride a bike with a fair amount of torque! The problem is that if you block down-shift and don't match the revs exactly then you are likely to lock the rear up (especially in the wet) as you release the clutch. The clutch release is probably going to happen just as you are tipping the bike over to go into the roundabout which is NOT a good time to get a rear wheel lock up!
Use the engine braking in each gear to help slow the bike, while “blipping” the throttle on the down shift. This will help balance the bike on the approach to the roundabout. Also, if there is reduced grip due to rain/diesel/whatever then the rear lock up will be less dramatic and will happen while the bike is still upright and travelling in a straight line.
Enjoy and ride safe.
Carrera2 said:
I guess it would be handy on a motorway however....
Am I missing something? Bear in mind I would quite like one - can someone persuade me that they're usefull?
I think you've hit the nail on the head! The only place they are really usefull is on the motorway where either you often don't realise that the bike is already in top and go for another gear, or, where you often don't realise that the bike still has another gear to go.
As most of the add on gear indicators work by "matching" the revs to the speed to claculate the current gear, the clutch needs to be released before the calculation can be done. This leads to the delay mentioned earlier.
Carrera2 said:
Am I missing something? Bear in mind I would quite like one - can someone persuade me that they're usefull?
Agree with you, I like the look of the translogic one but, I don't need a gear indicator (although occasionally I do find myself looking for 7th gear), I don't need a lap timer and I dont need a Shift light - but they do look cool........
One thing I would like though is a clock - so if they built in a digital clock I might buy one.
muffles said:
i've only had my licence for 2 weeks so maybe i'm doing it wrong...but if i'm riding fast, and for example i'm slowing down "forcefully" for a roundabout, i'd love to be able to switch straight to 2nd (seems a nice gear to go round most roundabouts in) from 4/5/6 or whatever gear i'm in, in a block change, cos i don't have time to change gear, engage clutch, check power/revs, etc for each gear. And it wastes time to go all the way to 1st then up one gear...
i know they teach you - or at least, they taught me - to change only one gear at a time, but it is so tediously slow sometimes!
Jeezus mate, take your time! As others have said make the most of the engine braking, there is a lot in the SV. About 3 months into ownership of mine i had a moment when down shifting into a hairpin right, and i locked the back end! when you are new to riding it can really be a heart stopping moment when the rear tries to overtake you
When downshifting i tend to feather the clutch more than pull in fully and fully release, feels a smoother shift and i can do it quickly while also using the engine as a brake without locking up. As for the Gear indicators, i suppose ther is a place for them on the track but think they are pointless for the road, if you dont know what gear you are in then you dont know the bike well enough in my opinion. Also heard them being described as a random number generator
catso said:
Am I missing something? Bear in mind I would quite like one - can someone persuade me that they're usefull?
Agree with you, I like the look of the translogic one but, I don't need a gear indicator (although occasionally I do find myself looking for 7th gear), I don't need a lap timer and I dont need a Shift light - but they do look cool........
One thing I would like though is a clock - so if they built in a digital clock I might buy one.
Ah now you see thats why you need the new breed of Ducati
My 749 has: digital clock, mpg, outside temp, lap times, trip, engine temp, batt voltage all in digital format on the dash
up the gear change in the heat of the moment. Will find out whether Iv'e flushed £50 down the pan after track day at Cadwell next Tuesday Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff