Up-shifts
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butchgti

Original Poster:

70 posts

253 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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This may well be a daft question, but here goes anyway!

Is it necessary to use the clutch on up-shifts on a bike?

My first bike (CBR400rr) was a bit of wreck and required use of the clutch for all up changes. My new bike (CBR600fs) can cope with clutch less up-shifts when the revs are high but refuses at low revs. I'm currently riding/abusing a courtesy bike (CBF600) and this lets me up-shift without the clutch far more easily at most revs.

I cant remember what, if anything I was taught on my Direct Access but i assume i used the clutch for all changes.

What are everyone's views?

r5gttgaz

7,897 posts

242 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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On my R6 I have never used the clutch for up shifting when going for it, I just take up the slack with my foot and slightly roll off the throttle and it shifts lovely.

hugoagogo

23,423 posts

255 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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r5gttgaz said:
On my R6 I have never used the clutch for up shifting when going for it, I just take up the slack with my foot and slightly roll off the throttle and it shifts lovely.


^this^

BliarOut

72,863 posts

261 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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hugoagogo said:
r5gttgaz said:
On my R6 I have never used the clutch for up shifting when going for it, I just take up the slack with my foot and slightly roll off the throttle and it shifts lovely.


^this^
^Yup^.

hobo

6,359 posts

268 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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r5gttgaz said:
On my R6 I have never used the clutch for up shifting when going for it, I just take up the slack with my foot and slightly roll off the throttle and it shifts lovely.

Ditto

DamienCBR

2,037 posts

245 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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I never really thought about it always used the clutch. I take it the benefit is it is quicker and keeps the revs up??

D

BliarOut

72,863 posts

261 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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DamienCBR said:
I never really thought about it always used the clutch. I take it the benefit is it is quicker and keeps the revs up??

D
Just seems to give a smoother upchange on a modern bike.

black-k1

12,653 posts

251 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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BliarOut said:
hugoagogo said:
r5gttgaz said:
On my R6 I have never used the clutch for up shifting when going for it, I just take up the slack with my foot and slightly roll off the throttle and it shifts lovely.


^this^
^Yup^.

^Me too^

momentofmadness

2,370 posts

263 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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Use the clutch from 1>2 then clutchless all the way up

PS Chain tension makes a difference for clutchless changes

chilli

17,320 posts

258 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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Do it most days!
Not on purpose, but just too enthusiastic to get into the next gear. Bikes still seems to work!!

cuprabob

17,953 posts

236 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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I only use the clutch on upshifts in town. Any other time clutchless, much faster

scoobz

6,578 posts

270 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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BliarOut said:
DamienCBR said:
I never really thought about it always used the clutch. I take it the benefit is it is quicker and keeps the revs up??

D
Just seems to give a smoother upchange on a modern bike.


My 748 clunks like a you wouldn't believe on an upshift if one is 'sans clutch' and 'enthusiastic' but it doesn't seem to have effected it yet... yet he says...

carrera2

8,352 posts

254 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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scoobz said:
BliarOut said:
DamienCBR said:
I never really thought about it always used the clutch. I take it the benefit is it is quicker and keeps the revs up??

D
Just seems to give a smoother upchange on a modern bike.


My 748 clunks like a you wouldn't believe on an upshift if one is 'sans clutch' and 'enthusiastic' but it doesn't seem to have effected it yet... yet he says...



That's odd, mine was as smooth as a babies arse....my 749's a bit more snatchy though.

scoobz

6,578 posts

270 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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well in that case its flucked then :-D

also it might be that i'm a duffer

BliarOut

72,863 posts

261 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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scoobz said:
BliarOut said:
DamienCBR said:
I never really thought about it always used the clutch. I take it the benefit is it is quicker and keeps the revs up??

D
Just seems to give a smoother upchange on a modern bike.


My 748 clunks like a you wouldn't believe on an upshift if one is 'sans clutch' and 'enthusiastic' but it doesn't seem to have effected it yet... yet he says...

Was like the proverbial knife through butter on the 888

Untill the chain snapped.

carrera2

8,352 posts

254 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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scoobz said:
well in that case its flucked then :-D

also it might be that i'm a duffer


I've just realised the problem.....




...it's a yellow one!

scoobz

6,578 posts

270 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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Yellow ones are faster.... :-p

Cheeky munky... maybe its just lack of experience on my part

carrera2

8,352 posts

254 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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scoobz said:
Yellow ones are faster.... :-p

Cheeky munky... maybe its just lack of experience on my part




I wouldn't have thought so....it's not a knack as such.


It can only be the colour

scoobz

6,578 posts

270 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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the 7's should be yellow the 9's should be red. Your just bitter because you made an error.

I guess I'm backing off the throttle too much... That or I have a touch like a rapist.

Edited by scoobz on Tuesday 11th July 22:03

beanbag

7,346 posts

263 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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Used to do it on my Suzuki Bandit all the time....

Just try it on a Buell!!!! lol