Fookin car drivers
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It must be the weather that kills brain cells and affects vision of the average car driver. Out for a spin this evening, approaching a roundabout, and I can see this prat coming from 200 yards away, so I back off, even though I'm entering the roundabout from his right and am in plain site of him. No sense in arguing with cars. They will win a scrap with me and the bike every time.
He's almost on the roundabout before he's seen me, and comes to a screeching halt with the car half way onto the roundabout. No matter, I thought he wasn't going to stop anyway. So I casually move off, glaring at him, shaking my head... honestly, it's got to be the ultimate put-down, rather than ranting and creative hand signals :-)
He's almost on the roundabout before he's seen me, and comes to a screeching halt with the car half way onto the roundabout. No matter, I thought he wasn't going to stop anyway. So I casually move off, glaring at him, shaking my head... honestly, it's got to be the ultimate put-down, rather than ranting and creative hand signals :-)
Or you could be the woman who, having checked her mirrors, indicated and generally done everything right, pulled out on me as I was overtaking her and a truck the other day. Seriously, I have only been at this two wheeled lark a month and the level of ignorance among car drivers astounds me. How on earth you can fail to notice a silver bike, headlights on, being riden by a bloke in a white helmet, accelerating hard with a race can fitted (by previous owner) is beyond me.
As you say it must be the heat. We are all used to the car boys and girls having mobiles glued to their ears when driving. However the t
t in the peugeot coupe took the biscuit today. PDA and using a stylus in a manual car, very impressive with only two hands, or was he using his 
cbecause he was driving like one.
t in the peugeot coupe took the biscuit today. PDA and using a stylus in a manual car, very impressive with only two hands, or was he using his cbecause he was driving like one.The DJ 27 said:
Or you could be the woman who, having checked her mirrors, indicated and generally done everything right, pulled out on me as I was overtaking her and a truck the other day.
[DevilsAdvocatemodeon]
If you saw her check mirrors, indicate and do everything right for an overtaking manouevre then it would be safe to assume that she may not have seen you and would start to pull out. She may not have realised you were accelerating hard and thought she had space to start the overtake. When I'm in the car I find that headlights give off a false impression of distance and I tend to be a bit more cautious about how far away someone coming from behind is.
[DevilsAdvocatemodeoff]
On the other hand she may just not have looked properly and didn't even realise you were there.
Same as DJ,
been doing this for about a month now, and I just can't believe the antics of car drivers, but van drivers can be worse.
I was sat at some lights last night, not 2 minutes after the first episode, and watched a van driver approach from the left with a phone glued to his ear, change gear with his right hand, maintain steering lock with his left elbow (left hand has the phone in it).
At which point I thought, tonight's just not the night! I rode home, washed the bike, had a beer and chilled out in the garden!!!
Some days I just wish I was a copper...
Mind you, a lot of bikers around our way don't do the cause any favours, by tear arsing around the village - lots of noise, lots of revs, lots of speed. IT'S SCHOOL HOLIDAYS chaps, those thoughtless 4ft tall thingies will be roaming about, running across roads without looking, springing out between parked cars, running after ice cream vans, etc, etc.
If you're really unlucky, you'll get the 14-16 year old versions that think it's cool to deliberately cross the road really slowly and make you slow down and ride around 'em!!! This variety can generally be recognised by the Burberry baseball cap, and hooded top. Oh, and they never travel alone. Safety in numbers?
:-)
Ju
been doing this for about a month now, and I just can't believe the antics of car drivers, but van drivers can be worse.
I was sat at some lights last night, not 2 minutes after the first episode, and watched a van driver approach from the left with a phone glued to his ear, change gear with his right hand, maintain steering lock with his left elbow (left hand has the phone in it).
At which point I thought, tonight's just not the night! I rode home, washed the bike, had a beer and chilled out in the garden!!!
Some days I just wish I was a copper...
Mind you, a lot of bikers around our way don't do the cause any favours, by tear arsing around the village - lots of noise, lots of revs, lots of speed. IT'S SCHOOL HOLIDAYS chaps, those thoughtless 4ft tall thingies will be roaming about, running across roads without looking, springing out between parked cars, running after ice cream vans, etc, etc.
If you're really unlucky, you'll get the 14-16 year old versions that think it's cool to deliberately cross the road really slowly and make you slow down and ride around 'em!!! This variety can generally be recognised by the Burberry baseball cap, and hooded top. Oh, and they never travel alone. Safety in numbers?
:-)
Ju
julianb said:
So I casually move off, glaring at him, shaking my head... honestly, it's got to be the ultimate put-down, rather than ranting and creative hand signals :-)
Oh 
A slow apologetic shaking of the head just like a school master. It's as if you're marking their driving and they know they just scored 1/10 
julianb said:
Same as DJ,
If you're really unlucky, you'll get the 14-16 year old versions that think it's cool to deliberately cross the road really slowly and make you slow down and ride around 'em!!! This variety can generally be recognised by the Burberry baseball cap, and hooded top. Oh, and they never travel alone. Safety in numbers?
:-)
Ju
If you're really unlucky, you'll get the 14-16 year old versions that think it's cool to deliberately cross the road really slowly and make you slow down and ride around 'em!!! This variety can generally be recognised by the Burberry baseball cap, and hooded top. Oh, and they never travel alone. Safety in numbers?
:-)
Ju
I find dropping a gear and opening the throttle generally makes them move faster. Its basic animal sociology, they want to make you move around them to prove that they are dominant, but it’s a bluff, if challenged they soon remember they have no balls and back down. It works best if you can get eye contact, then they know you mean it.
The DJ 27 said:
Or you could be the woman who, having checked her mirrors, indicated and generally done everything right, pulled out on me as I was overtaking her and a truck the other day. Seriously, I have only been at this two wheeled lark a month and the level of ignorance among car drivers astounds me. How on earth you can fail to notice a silver bike, headlights on, being riden by a bloke in a white helmet, accelerating hard with a race can fitted (by previous owner) is beyond me.
well it happens to me in the car too. However I have stopped and spoken to a few of them when we reach the next set of lights - they apparantly BELIEVE because the indicate, they now have the RIGHT to carry out the move, and look dumfounded when I ask for the page number of the highway code that says they are right.
"If I cant brake enough and hit you up the rear, do you know it will be your fault? would you do the same at a junction?"
have to laugh reading this post, not all car drivers the same, but plenty are. almost took out some biker yesterday, guy squeezed himself to the front of the queue of traffic and usually the pull away very, very fast. Except then, when the biker must have set himself into second or something.
If you are going to park in front of the person at the front.,ie over the line, please get away very fast and dont accelerate like a scooter when in a 650cc
other than that, not too bad, some bikes using part beams and give way to them, those using full beams well, i move the car so that cant see them
If you are going to park in front of the person at the front.,ie over the line, please get away very fast and dont accelerate like a scooter when in a 650cc
other than that, not too bad, some bikes using part beams and give way to them, those using full beams well, i move the car so that cant see them
Yep fault on all sides, car and bike alike, I guess it's always going to happen when humans are involved... it just seems some of them should get up a bit earlier and put their make-up on whilst they are actually still at home, not in the car. Or, read the paper over breakfast, not the steering wheel...
Any more?
Any more?
Ju[/quote]
I find dropping a gear and opening the throttle generally makes them move faster. Its basic animal sociology, they want to make you move around them to prove that they are dominant, but it’s a bluff, if challenged they soon remember they have no balls and back down. It works best if you can get eye contact, then they know you mean it.[/quote]
I'll give the little fighters dominant!
I don't think plod will be on your side though if you actually clipped one of 'em.
Mind you, they do drive you to it, my old man would have beat the shit out of me if I'd have behaved like that when I was a kid, and we're only talking 1985, not 1950!
I find dropping a gear and opening the throttle generally makes them move faster. Its basic animal sociology, they want to make you move around them to prove that they are dominant, but it’s a bluff, if challenged they soon remember they have no balls and back down. It works best if you can get eye contact, then they know you mean it.[/quote]
I'll give the little fighters dominant!
I don't think plod will be on your side though if you actually clipped one of 'em.
Mind you, they do drive you to it, my old man would have beat the shit out of me if I'd have behaved like that when I was a kid, and we're only talking 1985, not 1950!
s2ooz said:
The DJ 27 said:
Or you could be the woman who, having checked her mirrors, indicated and generally done everything right, pulled out on me as I was overtaking her and a truck the other day. Seriously, I have only been at this two wheeled lark a month and the level of ignorance among car drivers astounds me. How on earth you can fail to notice a silver bike, headlights on, being riden by a bloke in a white helmet, accelerating hard with a race can fitted (by previous owner) is beyond me.
well it happens to me in the car too. However I have stopped and spoken to a few of them when we reach the next set of lights - they apparantly BELIEVE because the indicate, they now have the RIGHT to carry out the move, and look dumfounded when I ask for the page number of the highway code that says they are right.
"If I cant brake enough and hit you up the rear, do you know it will be your fault? would you do the same at a junction?"
Over here in Saudi, wether it's law or not, if you rear end someone then it's your fault regardless of what happened prior to that. I was talking to a lad who said a car cut across three lanes, to overtake, right into his path about a foot from his front wheel. The car then immediately slammed on his brakes as he carried too much speed into the manouevre and nearly rear ended the car in front. The lad on the bike, still recovering from the first manouevre, went straight in to the back of the car. As far as the police were concerned the bike was at fault as he shouldn't have been so close to the car in front that he couldn't stop in time.
donteatpeople said:
julianb said:
Same as DJ,
If you're really unlucky, you'll get the 14-16 year old versions that think it's cool to deliberately cross the road really slowly and make you slow down and ride around 'em!!! This variety can generally be recognised by the Burberry baseball cap, and hooded top. Oh, and they never travel alone. Safety in numbers?
:-)
Ju
If you're really unlucky, you'll get the 14-16 year old versions that think it's cool to deliberately cross the road really slowly and make you slow down and ride around 'em!!! This variety can generally be recognised by the Burberry baseball cap, and hooded top. Oh, and they never travel alone. Safety in numbers?
:-)
Ju
I find dropping a gear and opening the throttle generally makes them move faster. Its basic animal sociology, they want to make you move around them to prove that they are dominant, but it’s a bluff, if challenged they soon remember they have no balls and back down. It works best if you can get eye contact, then they know you mean it.
I once decided to wake up a couple of these by spinning up the wheels in the car. They crapped themselves
I remember watching a couple of pissed squaddies ambling back to their barracks (won't say where!), they were goading motorists coming towards them, jigging about in the road, until some guy in a sports car, with slightly larger cahoneys, just carried on straight at them. I tell you, I've never seen a couple of drunks move so fast!!!
Scraggles said:
have to laugh reading this post, not all car drivers the same, but plenty are. almost took out some biker yesterday, guy squeezed himself to the front of the queue of traffic and usually the pull away very, very fast. Except then, when the biker must have set himself into second or something.
If you are going to park in front of the person at the front.,ie over the line, please get away very fast and dont accelerate like a scooter when in a 650cc
other than that, not too bad, some bikes using part beams and give way to them, those using full beams well, i move the car so that cant see them
If you are going to park in front of the person at the front.,ie over the line, please get away very fast and dont accelerate like a scooter when in a 650cc
other than that, not too bad, some bikes using part beams and give way to them, those using full beams well, i move the car so that cant see them
Oh yes! Been there done that. Felt a right prat. I believe it's called impatience and over confidence. Being a newbie, and very pasionate about the biking, it's very tempting to start doing this sort of thing, but after making a tit of myself once or twice already, I've changed my approach, and prefer not to get myself cornered like this. Got caught in a thunderstorm this morning, bloody soaked! Didn't realise that rain could actually hurt!! Didn't care, I just love riding my bike :-)
What you need to do is . . .
ride with this in mind - "everyone else on the road is out to kill you"
that doesnt mean you need to be overly cautious, or hesitant - or bloody slow
what it means is you have to try and (WORST CASE) second guess what everyone else is/or is about to do - thats cars, lorrys, bikers (who are some of the worst), pedestrians, cyclists etc etc and even the road surface!!!!
it means - looking ahead, being calm in your head, braking and accelerating smoothly - and most importantly riding within YOUR limits - not those of your bike - especially if you have only been biking for a bloody month FFS!!!
ride safe
Khushy
ride with this in mind - "everyone else on the road is out to kill you"
that doesnt mean you need to be overly cautious, or hesitant - or bloody slow
what it means is you have to try and (WORST CASE) second guess what everyone else is/or is about to do - thats cars, lorrys, bikers (who are some of the worst), pedestrians, cyclists etc etc and even the road surface!!!!
it means - looking ahead, being calm in your head, braking and accelerating smoothly - and most importantly riding within YOUR limits - not those of your bike - especially if you have only been biking for a bloody month FFS!!!
ride safe
Khushy
Edited by khushy on Thursday 27th July 22:45
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