Cheap Security

[rsvmilly]

My sister has just bought a Triumph Daytona 675 and she's insured it through Carole Nash.

CN are doing an absolutely unbeatable security package comprising;

Latest Datatool Cat1 Alarm
Datatag
Thatcham approved chain (rebadged Oxford)
Ditto ground anchor
Battery optimiser

all for £292 fitted! The alarm on its own normally retails for around £300-350

[chilli]

Is it a requirement to take out their insurance?

[rsvmilly]

chilli said:

Is it a requirement to take out their insurance?

I'm not sure. But that little lot, probably worth a retail value of around £6000, would offset quite a difference in premium.

My sister is paying £350ish

[mel]

rsvmilly said:

I'm not sure. But that little lot, probably worth a retail value of around £6000, would offset quite a difference in premium.

My sister is paying £350ish

Only if they are throwing in the Daytona is it worth anywhere near £6000!

[ballon]

chilli said:

Is it a requirement to take out their insurance?

Strangely when I changed my bike two weeks ago they did not require me to fit an alarm and it did not alter the premium, it does have a factory immobiliser. A lot of my friends are not bothering with an alarm now due to the limited benefit.

[sjtscott]

Had bad experience with CN, never ever giving them business again. Just pray you don't ever have to claim.

Most factory immobilisers are insurance approved now so personally if my next bike has one it ain't getting a poxy alarm. I certainly wasn't impressed with the Datatool System3 that I chose to have fitted to my gixxer6 (the one that got nicked), the movement sensor was stupidly sensitive and being kept outside under a cover you can guess it used to p*ss me and my neighbours off be beeping all the time during the night. Told this wasn't adjustable by the dealer!

Basically locking it to something solid is the only real way to stop it going missing, however having your lock/chain given the liquid nitrogen treatment tends to leave it open to sledge hammer attack, unsuprisingly this method destroyed my previous 'sold secure' lock!
Basically you do what you can and maximise the time it takes the gits to try to steal it, essentially the pros will get it eventually if they really want it.

So what I'm trying to say is that although the security kit seems cheap is it actually any good at doing its job?

[rsvmilly]

mel said:

rsvmilly said:

I'm not sure. But that little lot, probably worth a retail value of around £6000, would offset quite a difference in premium.

My sister is paying £350ish

Only if they are throwing in the Daytona is it worth anywhere near £6000!

Bit of a typo there

[rsvmilly]

sjtscott said:

I certainly wasn't impressed with the Datatool System3 that I chose to have fitted to my gixxer6 (the one that got nicked), the movement sensor was stupidly sensitive and being kept outside under a cover you can guess it used to p*ss me and my neighbours off be beeping all the time during the night. Told this wasn't adjustable by the dealer!

I have a System 3 on my Aprilia and it is way too sensitive. False alarms in the middle of the night certainly keep you on your toes!

The earlier Datatools had an external movement sensor and you could adjust the sensitivity by moving the sensor from the vertical. The system 3 has an internal sensor, with no adjstment.

It was also shabbily fitted and I ended up removing and refitting it.

sjtscott said:

So what I'm trying to say is that although the security kit seems cheap is it actually any good at doing its job?

I didn't comment on the effectiveness of the kit, although layered security is the way to go.

If your insurers won't cover you without an alarm then this lot is a good deal.