Whats the penalty for an illegal can?
Discussion
chilli said:
Just a warning, or a fine?
Guess it depends on the BIB involved, but I was just wondering what the letter of the law was?
Cheers.
Guess it depends on the BIB involved, but I was just wondering what the letter of the law was?
Cheers.
I have commuted from SW19 to the City for the past 17 years and most of that time with race cans of various sorts on my bikes, the Remus on my Speed Triple used to set of car alarms
I have never been stopped for them and when I have been pulled for routine checks, tax disc etc. they have never mentioned them.
I wouldn't give it a second thought.
The Multistrada is quite throaty now with the Sil's on. Early warning system is my excuse!!!!
Chilli, You've seen my bike and my Akrapovics all be it for a couple of minutes in Aldgate 
I have used race cans on all my bikes and commutuing for years, I have been pulled many a time for defective cans, but it depends on the mood of the BIB. I have twice been given a £30 fine and nothing else and a couple of times just been given a ticking off after I have discussed the necessity of having race cans in the city and on my commute. Some of the BIB's are in agreement with my race can theory but others are not so tolerant. However, I will always use race cans and to be honest most of the BIB's are ok with them.
I have used race cans on all my bikes and commutuing for years, I have been pulled many a time for defective cans, but it depends on the mood of the BIB. I have twice been given a £30 fine and nothing else and a couple of times just been given a ticking off after I have discussed the necessity of having race cans in the city and on my commute. Some of the BIB's are in agreement with my race can theory but others are not so tolerant. However, I will always use race cans and to be honest most of the BIB's are ok with them. Edited by Andy Oh on Tuesday 14th November 12:19
From the "Motorcycle Enforcement Strategy For England, Wales & Northern Ireland". I have a copy on my computer here at work, it must be availible to download somewhere if you google it.
Illegal Exhausts
In cases with no noise annoyance, consider the use of the Vehicle Defect Rectification Scheme and appropriate advice.
Where noise annoyance is a factor, prosecution is recommended, with consideration to be given to the use of Section 59 Police Reform Act 2002 for persistent offenders or excessive noise nuisance.
This issue affects the wider public and in many cases serves to alienate them from motorcyclists in general by reinforcing stereotypes. The Police have a duty to protect all road users and communities, it is therefore necessary to take proactive action against the illegal use of exhausts on motorcycles.
It is accepted that not all forces use the PNC to record and administer Section 59 warnings and seizure notices. It is recommended that the PNC should be used for this purpose
ACPO said:
Illegal Exhausts
In cases with no noise annoyance, consider the use of the Vehicle Defect Rectification Scheme and appropriate advice.
Where noise annoyance is a factor, prosecution is recommended, with consideration to be given to the use of Section 59 Police Reform Act 2002 for persistent offenders or excessive noise nuisance.
This issue affects the wider public and in many cases serves to alienate them from motorcyclists in general by reinforcing stereotypes. The Police have a duty to protect all road users and communities, it is therefore necessary to take proactive action against the illegal use of exhausts on motorcycles.
It is accepted that not all forces use the PNC to record and administer Section 59 warnings and seizure notices. It is recommended that the PNC should be used for this purpose
Edited by timmartin on Tuesday 14th November 13:16
Steve_T said:
You get a rectification notice for the 'defect' and you need to take the MOT test again I believe.
You don't have to do a full MOT again for a defect notice. You simply rectify the defect, take it to an MOT station and get them to check the part covered by the defect notice and get the form stamped which you then take to the police station.dern said:
Lst time I enquired of my insurance company about these they said that if I had undeclared modifications I would be uninsured and if I declared it they wouldn't insure me because they aren't road legal.
You just need to find the right insurer - granted it does narrow your choices down a bit.
LexSport said:
Steve_T said:
You get a rectification notice for the 'defect' and you need to take the MOT test again I believe.
You don't have to do a full MOT again for a defect notice. You simply rectify the defect, take it to an MOT station and get them to check the part covered by the defect notice and get the form stamped which you then take to the police station.I stand corrected.
LexSport said:
Steve_T said:
You get a rectification notice for the 'defect' and you need to take the MOT test again I believe.
You don't have to do a full MOT again for a defect notice. You simply rectify the defect, take it to an MOT station and get them to check the part covered by the defect notice and get the form stamped which you then take to the police station.Nope, I had to get my bike MOT'd again. No fine though
I've never been 'done' for a loud can, (and I've had some ferking loud bikes), even when stopped for other reasons. I don't think most traffic cops care too much or maybe they don't know what 'loud' is?. (got done for a loud car exhaust once though)
Last week at a Petrol Station there was a bike Cop filling up his bike, he heard my bike, which is quite loud, as he walked past he gave it the 'look over' and after paying for his fuel he 'asked' me to get a proper sized no plate, no mention of the cans.
Last week at a Petrol Station there was a bike Cop filling up his bike, he heard my bike, which is quite loud, as he walked past he gave it the 'look over' and after paying for his fuel he 'asked' me to get a proper sized no plate, no mention of the cans.
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