Company motorcycle
Discussion
Anybody got one? I'm trying to convince the chief at my place (since I decided to stay after all 
) that the only efficient way to visit clients in the 21st century is on two wheels. It's fast, it's economical, it's 'green'.
I did 125 miles one day last week in 1h45... through the rush hour around Manchester too
I did an emergency call-out to another customer the day before in less than an hour including the travelling, yet we can still bill them 3 hours due to our charge-out rates.
Now, suppose I was to wangle a bike, how would I be fleeced by the IR? Would it be taxed on purchase price like a car; could I take the rear seat off and call it a commercial vehicle
, or does some other rule apply?
Bear in mind that even a £12K bike would be cheaper than almost any car that would be worth having...
, a big tourer can carry a lot of kit so it's not as though I can't do any work, but for a lot of jobs it's waste of an empty van to use the Transit.
Plus.... I'm sure that full leathers and boots would be classed as essential PPE and could be claimed back...
) that the only efficient way to visit clients in the 21st century is on two wheels. It's fast, it's economical, it's 'green'. I did 125 miles one day last week in 1h45... through the rush hour around Manchester too
I did an emergency call-out to another customer the day before in less than an hour including the travelling, yet we can still bill them 3 hours due to our charge-out rates. Now, suppose I was to wangle a bike, how would I be fleeced by the IR? Would it be taxed on purchase price like a car; could I take the rear seat off and call it a commercial vehicle
, or does some other rule apply? Bear in mind that even a £12K bike would be cheaper than almost any car that would be worth having...
, a big tourer can carry a lot of kit so it's not as though I can't do any work, but for a lot of jobs it's waste of an empty van to use the Transit. Plus.... I'm sure that full leathers and boots would be classed as essential PPE and could be claimed back...
rich1231 said:
wed1gie
any chance you can move into the fing shop window at Selfridges on Oxford St for Chrimbo?
That way we could know a bit less about the ins and outs of your life, and be saved from minutae updates.
any chance you can move into the fing shop window at Selfridges on Oxford St for Chrimbo?
That way we could know a bit less about the ins and outs of your life, and be saved from minutae updates.
Nobody forces you to waste your evidently hugely-satisfying and over-stuffed life reading anything that I or anyone else writes on here.
So how about you go and fuuck yourself and anyone who might have something constructive to say in answer to the question (to wit: does anyone have a company motorcycle?) can get some server space?
wedg1e said:
rich1231 said:
wed1gie
any chance you can move into the fing shop window at Selfridges on Oxford St for Chrimbo?
That way we could know a bit less about the ins and outs of your life, and be saved from minutae updates.
any chance you can move into the fing shop window at Selfridges on Oxford St for Chrimbo?
That way we could know a bit less about the ins and outs of your life, and be saved from minutae updates.
Nobody forces you to waste your evidently hugely-satisfying and over-stuffed life reading anything that I or anyone else writes on here.
So how about you go and fuuck yourself and anyone who might have something constructive to say in answer to the question (to wit: does anyone have a company motorcycle?) can get some server space?
ok maybe not a shop window, a web cam maybe?
I may be wrong but I don't think you pay any tax on a company bike like you would a car. Would imagine all expenses could be claimed as a legit business cost but I doubt the VAT on purchase price would be reclaimable.
Oh and as I'm sure you know, 12k will buy you a bloody nice motorcycle.........
Oh and as I'm sure you know, 12k will buy you a bloody nice motorcycle.........
Nah, just as much bitching, but only because he's going to buy a shaft drive nasty thing. With reverse gears. Ugh.
Cant find the reference right now, but I'm sure that HMRC dont do company car tax on a bike. Your employer might have objections from either an image or a safety perspective, but if you can work from panniers, go for it..
Cant find the reference right now, but I'm sure that HMRC dont do company car tax on a bike. Your employer might have objections from either an image or a safety perspective, but if you can work from panniers, go for it..
DennisTheMenace said:
Less bitching in here as well .... i hope
The AA did have a fleet of panss for london and a few other citys a few years back but they got shot of them . Cant see why employers are against them as you can cut down on call out times etc .
The AA did have a fleet of panss for london and a few other citys a few years back but they got shot of them . Cant see why employers are against them as you can cut down on call out times etc .
Oh aye, there are some wucking pointless fankers about
I suspect it's a combination of safety and the perception that a bike isn't a (financial) asset in the way that a car is.
randlemarcus said:
Nah, just as much bitching, but only because he's going to buy a shaft drive nasty thing. With reverse gears. Ugh.
Cant find the reference right now, but I'm sure that HMRC dont do company car tax on a bike. Your employer might have objections from either an image or a safety perspective, but if you can work from panniers, go for it..
Cant find the reference right now, but I'm sure that HMRC dont do company car tax on a bike. Your employer might have objections from either an image or a safety perspective, but if you can work from panniers, go for it..
Hey, I wouldn't stoop as low as a Goldthing
Now an STX 13...
The tax thing was the main thrust of my post (I was hoping EricMc might bite
) - my input on the field servicing side is supposedly reducing but clients still need visiting, the company won't want the TVRs fuel bill and if the only other alternative is a company BMW, I'll take the train OK, done some digging, and whilst it appears that a bike is not chargeable as a car or van would be, ye olde 'benefit of an asset' applies; being assessed here:
www.hmrc.gov.uk/guidance/480-chapter-6.pdf
Though it looks as though, if you could prove mostly business use, a large proportion of it would be reclaimable...
www.hmrc.gov.uk/guidance/480-chapter-6.pdf
Though it looks as though, if you could prove mostly business use, a large proportion of it would be reclaimable...
Davel said:
You can claim back all or most of the VAT on the purchase, provided you buy new or and ex-demo bike and you can claim the cost of all the safety clothing and running costs.
Interesting, I did away with company cars as the high tax made it a non-benefit, saving the VAT on a new bike would be nice. And I do like the look of the new 1098...........
You sure?! That's more like it! Why not just get a "car" allowance & buy what you want for work. That's what I did.
If I'm meeting a client for the first time I usually arrive suited by car of public transport, but after that not usually a problem to arrive in bike kit. I have attended loads of meetings wearing shirt & tie + bike leathers & boots. Once your sat down, whats the difference? Can get a bit sweaty in summer though if the meeting room has no a/c.
I think most firms would resist company bikes in case an employee had an accident on them.
If I'm meeting a client for the first time I usually arrive suited by car of public transport, but after that not usually a problem to arrive in bike kit. I have attended loads of meetings wearing shirt & tie + bike leathers & boots. Once your sat down, whats the difference? Can get a bit sweaty in summer though if the meeting room has no a/c.
I think most firms would resist company bikes in case an employee had an accident on them.
andy tims said:
Why not just get a "car" allowance & buy what you want for work. That's what I did.
If I'm meeting a client for the first time I usually arrive suited by car of public transport, but after that not usually a problem to arrive in bike kit. I have attended loads of meetings wearing shirt & tie + bike leathers & boots. Once your sat down, whats the difference? Can get a bit sweaty in summer though if the meeting room has no a/c.
I think most firms would resist company bikes in case an employee had an accident on them.
If I'm meeting a client for the first time I usually arrive suited by car of public transport, but after that not usually a problem to arrive in bike kit. I have attended loads of meetings wearing shirt & tie + bike leathers & boots. Once your sat down, whats the difference? Can get a bit sweaty in summer though if the meeting room has no a/c.
I think most firms would resist company bikes in case an employee had an accident on them.
Most of our customers want a response time measured in nanoseconds and costs in negative numbers. They wouldn't care if you turned up ballcock-naked as long as their production line is running when you leave
As for car allowance: I don't want a car. I have to find space for two cars and a van (plus the bike) as it is...
wedg1e said:
As for car allowance: I don't want a car. I have to find space for two cars and a van (plus the bike) as it is...
Must have been too subtle
Suggesting you get an allowance & buy the bike you want with the dosh. Otherwise, even if the firm do agree to a company bike it will likely be something really dull, like an RT, or even worse a Pan 
Edited by andy tims on Wednesday 22 November 13:45
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