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http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Electronicplates/
Big Brother for Bikers!!!
Just come across this on the tinternet, if its a re-post, Soz...
Big Brother for Bikers!!!
Just come across this on the tinternet, if its a re-post, Soz...
Signed,
The problem with something like this (if introduced) is not only can they measure your speed & position it would be opening the door to road tax based on usage as well as the distinct possibility of tracking your movements (IMO none of the governments business) which would be open to abuse.
The other problem with something like this Pandoras box is once implemented it would be very hard to get rid of.
The problem with something like this (if introduced) is not only can they measure your speed & position it would be opening the door to road tax based on usage as well as the distinct possibility of tracking your movements (IMO none of the governments business) which would be open to abuse.
The other problem with something like this Pandoras box is once implemented it would be very hard to get rid of.
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/other/enp_report....
FEASIBILITY REPORT
Electronic Number Plates [ENP]
Active RFID systems are the only ones that seem to work. The passive chip on a licence plate has already been proved (in this report) to be almost completely ineffective. It'll be tax-disk holders with powered (active) RFID chips. These can transmit the signal much further when interrogated so a police car could check details of a car beyond line of sight (e.g. target car, another car, police car - perahps up to 100m away).
The police and DVLA say that they are only trialling the system to help reduce vehicle crime (no insurance, MOT stolen cars etc). Its sort of the next level in ANPR (But could make it so that front facing cameras can get bikers)
No mention of using this for road charging or speeding per se, but after they perfect the technology its only a matter of time surely??
FEASIBILITY REPORT
Electronic Number Plates [ENP]
Active RFID systems are the only ones that seem to work. The passive chip on a licence plate has already been proved (in this report) to be almost completely ineffective. It'll be tax-disk holders with powered (active) RFID chips. These can transmit the signal much further when interrogated so a police car could check details of a car beyond line of sight (e.g. target car, another car, police car - perahps up to 100m away).
The police and DVLA say that they are only trialling the system to help reduce vehicle crime (no insurance, MOT stolen cars etc). Its sort of the next level in ANPR (But could make it so that front facing cameras can get bikers)
No mention of using this for road charging or speeding per se, but after they perfect the technology its only a matter of time surely??
Edited by Glade on Thursday 21st June 12:07
Edited by Glade on Thursday 21st June 12:48
Guys, no offence but signing petitions against feasibility studies is 
ing nuts. Soon there'll be one petition each signed by one person registering our opposition to anything new whatsoever. There's already more than any one could possible take seriously as it is.
Also it's simply an alternative for identifying an individual car or bike using a method other than reading your plate either visually or using some image recognition program.
Even if it could possibly be used for road pricing purposes the existence of the technology won't alter the fact that road pricing may or may not be put in place. Technology already exists in many forms to support road pricing and the question as to whether or not road pricing will come in to effect will be down to *policy* not technology.
Frankly if this helps make my bike a less attractive proposition to thieves or ringers then I'm for it. I see no downsides because I tax, mot and insure my bike.
Regards,
Mark
ing nuts. Soon there'll be one petition each signed by one person registering our opposition to anything new whatsoever. There's already more than any one could possible take seriously as it is.Also it's simply an alternative for identifying an individual car or bike using a method other than reading your plate either visually or using some image recognition program.
Even if it could possibly be used for road pricing purposes the existence of the technology won't alter the fact that road pricing may or may not be put in place. Technology already exists in many forms to support road pricing and the question as to whether or not road pricing will come in to effect will be down to *policy* not technology.
Frankly if this helps make my bike a less attractive proposition to thieves or ringers then I'm for it. I see no downsides because I tax, mot and insure my bike.
Regards,
Mark
dern said:
Guys, no offence but signing petitions against feasibility studies is ing nuts. Soon there'll be one petition each signed by one person registering our opposition to anything new whatsoever. There's already more than any one could possible take seriously as it is.
Also it's simply an alternative for identifying an individual car or bike using a method other than reading your plate either visually or using some image recognition program.
Even if it could possibly be used for road pricing purposes the existence of the technology won't alter the fact that road pricing may or may not be put in place. Technology already exists in many forms to support road pricing and the question as to whether or not road pricing will come in to effect will be down to *policy* not technology.
Frankly if this helps make my bike a less attractive proposition to thieves or ringers then I'm for it. I see no downsides because I tax, mot and insure my bike.
Regards,
Mark
I agree in principle but unfortunately, this government does have a history of miss-using/re-directing technology used for law enforcement away from dealing with the real issues to focus on the ‘easy targets’ of those otherwise law abiding, tax paying citizens. As such, I really do not want to support any further technology evaluation schemes until I start to see evidence of the existing facilities being used to focus on the “big issues”. ing nuts. Soon there'll be one petition each signed by one person registering our opposition to anything new whatsoever. There's already more than any one could possible take seriously as it is.Also it's simply an alternative for identifying an individual car or bike using a method other than reading your plate either visually or using some image recognition program.
Even if it could possibly be used for road pricing purposes the existence of the technology won't alter the fact that road pricing may or may not be put in place. Technology already exists in many forms to support road pricing and the question as to whether or not road pricing will come in to effect will be down to *policy* not technology.
Frankly if this helps make my bike a less attractive proposition to thieves or ringers then I'm for it. I see no downsides because I tax, mot and insure my bike.
Regards,
Mark
Why are vehicles currently being cloned in such large numbers as to require this technology? Primarily because of the governments obsession with enforcement of minor victimless traffic violations at the expense of policing the real issue of bad driving/reducing levels of road safety. Once I start to trust the government with regards to using such technology for the good of the generally law abiding, hard working, tax paying person in the street, then I’ll stop objecting to such things.
Petition signed!
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