Moto GP bikes how fast.....
Moto GP bikes how fast.....
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adiandvic

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299 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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how fast can they go with the right gearing, wind behind them, down hill etc etc. What is the limit before the engine cant rev any more to make them increase in speed

Any ideas.

y2blade

56,252 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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how steep Downhill?

trumpet600

3,527 posts

252 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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How strong a wind?

reAnimate

418 posts

303 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Which Bike?

UK_WS6

3,336 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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How big the balls

F.M

5,816 posts

241 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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220mph odd perhaps.....they are aleady around the 210`s ...I`d think the HP required to go over 220 would not be proportional to the gains in speed..i.e. another 50 hp might get you another 5-10mph......

Rawwr

22,722 posts

255 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Almost as quick as Blade7's bike \o/

Steve_T

6,356 posts

293 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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F.M said:
220mph odd perhaps.....they are aleady around the 210`s ...I`d think the HP required to go over 220 would not be proportional to the gains in speed..i.e. another 50 hp might get you another 5-10mph......
They do 210 in a realtively short space, so the gearing is most likely not set around absolute speed. 220 may be possible with the right gearing on the bikes as they are, with enough room to do it. If 210 was the limit, drag is proportional to the square of speed, 220 requires ~10% more power.

Steve.

black-k1

12,632 posts

250 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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F.M said:
220mph odd perhaps.....they are aleady around the 210`s ...I`d think the HP required to go over 220 would not be proportional to the gains in speed..i.e. another 50 hp might get you another 5-10mph......
I think that, assuming the aerodynamics are the same then an increase in speed will require a cube of that increase in power thus, to double the speed you need 2*2*2=8 times the power.

Thus, if we assume current bikes can do 210mph with 240bhp then 220mph would require around 275bhp.

I know that doesn't help with identifying the current absolute top speed but it does show that the reducing the drag coefficient will have a greater effect on the top speed than adding power, so wait for a very strong tail wind before testing!

YamR1V64motion

5,732 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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what do you think would do a standing mile quicker?, a Moto GP bike or one of those competly mental Turbo Hayabusas?

FourWheelDrift

91,633 posts

305 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Fastest recorded was 214mph by Loris Capirossi in 2004 on the 990cc Ducati. That had approximately 230bhp at the time so they say.

Steve_T

6,356 posts

293 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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You're right. Drag as a force increases as a square of speed, but power as a cube. paperbag

blade7

11,311 posts

237 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Rawwr said:
Almost as quick as Blade7's bike \o/
Sycophant.

anonymous-user

75 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Steve_T said:
They do 210 in a realtively short space
They being Ducatibiggrin As far as i'm aware, Yamaha haven't cracked 200mph since going to 800's... Ducati held the record in 2004 at Cataluyna pre season testing - 216 mph.

Busamav

2,954 posts

229 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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YamR1V64motion said:
what do you think would do a standing mile quicker?, a Moto GP bike or one of those competly mental Turbo Hayabusas?
without doubt the Busa turbo.

The Superstreet bikes are running 198mph in 7 secs within the quarter .

A couple of weeks back at a BSB meet , the turbo guys were invited to see if they could hit 200 down the straight from a standing start , one rider managed it ,

whereas the fastest BSB bike along that stretch during the race was leon haslam at about 170 ( obviously a rolling start too )

Steve_T

6,356 posts

293 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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JS99 said:
Steve_T said:
They do 210 in a realtively short space
They being Ducatibiggrin As far as i'm aware, Yamaha haven't cracked 200mph since going to 800's... Ducati held the record in 2004 at Cataluyna pre season testing - 216 mph.
Yep Ducati have always been quick over the past few years.

Steve_T

6,356 posts

293 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Busamav said:
YamR1V64motion said:
what do you think would do a standing mile quicker?, a Moto GP bike or one of those competly mental Turbo Hayabusas?
without doubt the Busa turbo.

The Superstreet bikes are running 198mph in 7 secs within the quarter .

A couple of weeks back at a BSB meet , the turbo guys were invited to see if they could hit 200 down the straight from a standing start , one rider managed it ,

whereas the fastest BSB bike along that stretch during the race was leon haslam at about 170 ( obviously a rolling start too )
What sort of power are we talking here - 500+?

anonymous-user

75 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Busamav said:
whereas the fastest BSB bike along that stretch during the race was leon haslam at about 170 ( obviously a rolling start too )
BSB are easily hitting 190+ at Snet

Scott W

572 posts

264 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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Steve_T said:
Busamav said:
YamR1V64motion said:
what do you think would do a standing mile quicker?, a Moto GP bike or one of those competly mental Turbo Hayabusas?
without doubt the Busa turbo.

The Superstreet bikes are running 198mph in 7 secs within the quarter .

A couple of weeks back at a BSB meet , the turbo guys were invited to see if they could hit 200 down the straight from a standing start , one rider managed it ,

whereas the fastest BSB bike along that stretch during the race was leon haslam at about 170 ( obviously a rolling start too )
What sort of power are we talking here - 500+?
The BigCC turbo 'Busa has a recorded 721bhp - take a look this link for the power graph. http://www.bigccracing.com/content/item.asp?item=58 

Busamav

2,954 posts

229 months

Tuesday 17th July 2007
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JS99 said:
Busamav said:
whereas the fastest BSB bike along that stretch during the race was leon haslam at about 170 ( obviously a rolling start too )
BSB are easily hitting 190+ at Snet
ok , I just checked , that particluar day, through the timing lights haslam was fastest at 177


edit, just a thought , but it may have something to do with where the speed trap was located ,

it was set up to catch the turbo bikes at their peak , bearing in mind they were having to stop , whereas the bSB bikes would maybe, still be accelerating and would peel off into the corner carrying a high speed

Edited by Busamav on Tuesday 17th July 17:04