Dare I ask?? A What Scooter Question..
Dare I ask?? A What Scooter Question..
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Fire99

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9,863 posts

250 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Hi all,

A mate of mine who currently runs a scooby wants a scooter for his commute to work.
Its about 40 miles each way on Devon A/B roads..(yes a marathon on a scooter) He's in his 30's but doesn't have a bike license so its gotta be learner legal.. 125cc i guess?? and the scooter choice comes from him not wanting any gears....

So, and i cant believe im asking this, any suggestions for a fairly peppy learner legal scooter?

regards,

Nick 'the pizza boy'

Wedg1e

27,002 posts

286 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Yamaha Passola. In lime green, with baskets front and rear. Must be ridden in full leathers and thrashed up and down the High Street under the noses of the Police for best effect hehe

Fire99

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9,863 posts

250 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Wedg1e said:
Yamaha Passola. In lime green, with baskets front and rear. Must be ridden in full leathers and thrashed up and down the High Street under the noses of the Police for best effect hehe
Why do i get the feeling im gonna get alot of these type replies? hehe

need 4 speed

26 posts

223 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Passola is ideal for the knee-down, wheelie style. No L plates needed on a car licence to give the game away?

aeropilot

39,300 posts

248 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Hah hah....

Last year I got offered a tempting London City based contract and shamefully looked very briefly into the option of the twist-and-barely-go route for commuting.

Aided by advise from an aquaintence who worked in a bike shop that also did scooters.....had I decided to go that route if taking the job, I would have plumped for an Aprillia Sport City 125.


Fire99

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Monday 30th July 2007
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aeropilot said:
Hah hah....

Last year I got offered a tempting London City based contract and shamefully looked very briefly into the option of the twist-and-barely-go route for commuting.

Aided by advise from an aquaintence who worked in a bike shop that also did scooters.....had I decided to go that route if taking the job, I would have plumped for an Aprillia Sport City 125.
Hang your head in shame young man.. hehe
well i cant believe i'm asking.... but i'll forward on this as a potential pizza nuisance bike. biggrin

black-k1

12,632 posts

250 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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idea The best option for a small learner scooter is probably either the DAS 4 day or the DAS 5 day then something like an SV650 or a Fazer 600! biglaugh

Fire99

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Monday 30th July 2007
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black-k1 said:
idea The best option for a small learner scooter is probably either the DAS 4 day or the DAS 5 day then something like an SV650 or a Fazer 600! biglaugh
totally agree.. but he seems dead against gears at the mo...

Fire99

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Monday 30th July 2007
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What about a Gilera DNA 125? Bit like a scooter trying to dress like a proper bike..

hornetrider

63,161 posts

226 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Well the fear of gears is probably because of ignorance (I don't mean that in a bad way) of what is required to change gears on a bike. If he does a few lessons his mind will be changed surely. There are alternatives though - a big Suzi Bergmann thing is a 500cc auto if he really wants no gears.

There is no way you could do a 40 mile each way commute on a 125.

Fire99

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Monday 30th July 2007
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hornetrider said:
Well the fear of gears is probably because of ignorance (I don't mean that in a bad way) of what is required to change gears on a bike. If he does a few lessons his mind will be changed surely. There are alternatives though - a big Suzi Bergmann thing is a 500cc auto if he really wants no gears.

There is no way you could do a 40 mile each way commute on a 125.
Well you have a good point.. and personally i've been riding bikes for years so can't see the issue but hey, horses for courses.

I think he'll need a full license for a 500cc scooter thing??? am i right?

on the commute thing, i used to do the same distance on a highly tuned DT50 when i was 16.. OK.. yes i was 16 and felt no pain.. hehe

aeropilot

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248 months

Monday 30th July 2007
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Fire99 said:
black-k1 said:
idea The best option for a small learner scooter is probably either the DAS 4 day or the DAS 5 day then something like an SV650 or a Fazer 600! biglaugh
totally agree.. but he seems dead against gears at the mo...
Probably something to do with being a Scooby owner........tongue out

Steve_T

6,356 posts

293 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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On the auto gearbox front, I'm wondering how well Aprilia's Mana 850 will work out.

Fire99

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Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Steve_T said:
On the auto gearbox front, I'm wondering how well Aprilia's Mana 850 will work out.
Going off topic on my own topic biggrin , i'm not sure either way to be honest. On a bike i find it hard to see much appeal of an automatic as changing gear is so easy and clutches are rarely that heavy.

Also bigger CC bikes often have such an abundance of torque compared to their weight you dont have to do much gear changing anyway.

However i'm sure it appeals to some. Just wondering about the reliability of the system and maintenance costs. The last manual clutch i changed cost a grand total of £40 plus about 45 minutes work.

Steve_T

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Tuesday 31st July 2007
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I'm thinking only of the commute. I doubt I'd want an auto anywhere else.

EvoBarry

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286 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Fire99 said:
What about a Gilera DNA 125? Bit like a scooter trying to dress like a proper bike..
Or the Runner which uses the same motor but in a more conventional (but stylish-ish) scooter style.

I have a Runner200 for commuting and local trips, and its fantastic, I'd even go as far as to say fun! biggrin

Cruises at 60/65 easily, and still manages just shy of 70mpg. Best thing I've bought this year.

30 miles is gonna be a bit tedious though...

Fire99

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Tuesday 31st July 2007
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EvoBarry said:
30 miles is gonna be a bit tedious though...
thanks for that.. well he can't have it all.. if he aint gonna pass his test and wont ride a manual he's gotta suffer a bit.. smile




aeropilot

39,300 posts

248 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Fire99 said:
EvoBarry said:
30 miles is gonna be a bit tedious though...
thanks for that.. well he can't have it all.. if he aint gonna pass his test and wont ride a manual he's gotta suffer a bit.. smile
A bit......I'd say a lot with 40 miles each way on Devon A/B roads.....biggrineek

I only considered the 'twist-and-barely-go' because I'm already in outer London and it's at most 10 miles into the city and would be all in traffic filter mode for the whole journey. On a proper bike, I'd be lucky to get out of 3rd gear on any part of the journey and a twister is smaller and easier to park.
As much as it would have meant holding one's head in shame, it really would have been the most practical choice in terms of time saving and cost saving.
However if I lived further out of London, say beyond the M25, then a proper bike's advantages would come into play.

Fire99

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Tuesday 31st July 2007
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aeropilot said:
A bit......I'd say a lot with 40 miles each way on Devon A/B roads.....biggrineek

I only considered the 'twist-and-barely-go' because I'm already in outer London and it's at most 10 miles into the city and would be all in traffic filter mode for the whole journey. On a proper bike, I'd be lucky to get out of 3rd gear on any part of the journey and a twister is smaller and easier to park.
As much as it would have meant holding one's head in shame, it really would have been the most practical choice in terms of time saving and cost saving.
However if I lived further out of London, say beyond the M25, then a proper bike's advantages would come into play.
you're not kidding. I use a 500cc Kwak frequently doing my 16 mile each way trip to work on a v busy dual carriageway and B road, and maybe this says more about my riding than the bike, but it can push 120 leprechauns and still is suffering from being almost flat out most of the time.

Well i will continue to try and persuade him to try something with more power than than a wet fart. biggrin

Wedg1e

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Tuesday 31st July 2007
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need 4 speed said:
Passola is ideal for the knee-down, wheelie style. No L plates needed on a car licence to give the game away?
Eh? The only time you'd get a knee down on a Pi55-hola is as you slide off the 8" trailer tyres made from solid Teflon. And wheelie?! rofl Only if you stood behind it and lifted the front end!