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The new Ninja's are very sensitive, it's not the power that will be difficult to tame, it's the attitude and road manners, they are very chatty. Get a Bandit or Fazer 600 to sart with, or a Z750 or something that's a bit softer and more road biased than track biased, ride that for a year and then get the ZX6R, it's a truly awesome bike but very difficult for a new rider to get used to riding on.
Jellebabe said:
I've booked my CBT on Saturday 
Theory test friday, scored 48/50 online, not sure about hazard perception need a practise I think, does anyone know where I can download one for free?
Then direct access first week of Nov if everything goes well
Book the theory test a little in advance, and I think they send you a practise disc for both bits, which is nice. Theory test friday, scored 48/50 online, not sure about hazard perception need a practise I think, does anyone know where I can download one for free?
Then direct access first week of Nov if everything goes well
Have fun on Saturday though, and enjoy it
Good luck with the tests.On the therory i found the hazard perception a bit of a pain and nearly failed.The people there before the test said that as i was already a driver for many years you do not see or take in all of the hazards or sometimes see them to quickly for the computer so you click and it does not register meaning you fail.
What bike thread? I strongly recommend you buy one of the practice DVDs for the theory test.
I've been driving for a looong time, but failed the bike hazard perception test the first time round. Once you look at the practice DVDs and understand the scoring process, I understood why... It's like playing a video game - and you really need to know the rules of how the scoring is done: when the scoring "window" opens and closes, points being zero'd if you click too many times, what constitutes a hazard in the "game" etc etc etc
I've been driving for a looong time, but failed the bike hazard perception test the first time round. Once you look at the practice DVDs and understand the scoring process, I understood why... It's like playing a video game - and you really need to know the rules of how the scoring is done: when the scoring "window" opens and closes, points being zero'd if you click too many times, what constitutes a hazard in the "game" etc etc etc
JonA said:
I strongly recommend you buy one of the practice DVDs for the theory test.
I've been driving for a looong time, but failed the bike hazard perception test the first time round. Once you look at the practice DVDs and understand the scoring process, I understood why... It's like playing a video game - and you really need to know the rules of how the scoring is done: when the scoring "window" opens and closes, points being zero'd if you click too many times, what constitutes a hazard in the "game" etc etc etc
yup yup yup, its nothing like being on the road is it?I've been driving for a looong time, but failed the bike hazard perception test the first time round. Once you look at the practice DVDs and understand the scoring process, I understood why... It's like playing a video game - and you really need to know the rules of how the scoring is done: when the scoring "window" opens and closes, points being zero'd if you click too many times, what constitutes a hazard in the "game" etc etc etc
i still cant understand why its needed. if your hazard perception is crap you'll fail the real test for inappropirate speed after all?
Second the practce DVD for the hazard test suggestion. I did mine last Friday - 50/50 for theory and a 38/75 fail for the hazard. 
. Could see everything I was supposed to, but had no idea whenabouts it was I was supposed to be clicking and was wary about clicking multiple times because of the warnings that clicking multiple times will result in a disqualification.
ETA: The real kick in the nuts for me was that I did actually order the DVD well in advance, but the time taken for it to be despatched and the sodding postal strikes meant that I still don't have it!
. Could see everything I was supposed to, but had no idea whenabouts it was I was supposed to be clicking and was wary about clicking multiple times because of the warnings that clicking multiple times will result in a disqualification.ETA: The real kick in the nuts for me was that I did actually order the DVD well in advance, but the time taken for it to be despatched and the sodding postal strikes meant that I still don't have it!
Edited by uriel on Tuesday 16th October 19:48
You need to understand not only what constitudes a hazard, but at what point in the scoring system different hazards have their "scoring window open"
For example,
-A horse gets scored as soon as it becomes at all visible. If you wait until it's in the foreground you are screwed and score nothing.
-A child on the pavement is not a hazard UNTIL it looks like it may run into the road.
-An oncoming truck on a narrowing road is not a hazard UNTIL it's approacing the narrowing of the road.
- A parked truck at side of road isn't a hazard UNTIL you have to think about pulling out to go around it. First spotting it is irrelevant to scoring.
- Any snow on the road means that you should automatically click on anything that moves (!) because the whole environment is dangerous
-and so it goes on and on....
Try these as a starting point:
http://www.theory-test.co.uk/asp/default.asp
http://www.driving-test-success.com/hazard/hazard_...
But any practice videos/DVD practice thigns are useless until they also show you when the scoring window opens and closes.
Like I said - it's a video game that you need to know the rules of. Plain f-ing stupid ,annoying and irrelevant to experienced drivers in my view. But we're not setting the rules of the game.
rgds
JOn
For example,
-A horse gets scored as soon as it becomes at all visible. If you wait until it's in the foreground you are screwed and score nothing.
-A child on the pavement is not a hazard UNTIL it looks like it may run into the road.
-An oncoming truck on a narrowing road is not a hazard UNTIL it's approacing the narrowing of the road.
- A parked truck at side of road isn't a hazard UNTIL you have to think about pulling out to go around it. First spotting it is irrelevant to scoring.
- Any snow on the road means that you should automatically click on anything that moves (!) because the whole environment is dangerous
-and so it goes on and on....
Try these as a starting point:
http://www.theory-test.co.uk/asp/default.asp
http://www.driving-test-success.com/hazard/hazard_...
But any practice videos/DVD practice thigns are useless until they also show you when the scoring window opens and closes.
Like I said - it's a video game that you need to know the rules of. Plain f-ing stupid ,annoying and irrelevant to experienced drivers in my view. But we're not setting the rules of the game.
rgds
JOn
Which DVD is it that other people have?
Mine finally arrived this morning and it's utter shit. It's the official DSA one and according to the site "Features the official DSA hazard perception video clips", but as far as I can tell, it just has Suzi Perry whittering on stating the obvious for a while and then at the end it plays 10 clips and gives you a score for each. I was expecting a lot more than that? The way the site reads, it sounds as though you would get the entire lot of the clips, in the way that the book that covers the theory has the entire bank of questions they can ask. If not all of them, then, at least more than 10 poxy clips...that's 4 shy of a full test. Surely I'm missing something, they can't charge £16 for that?
I've got my re-test on Wendesday and after going through that DVD, I don't really feel any more conident that I did walking into the last one.
Mine finally arrived this morning and it's utter shit. It's the official DSA one and according to the site "Features the official DSA hazard perception video clips", but as far as I can tell, it just has Suzi Perry whittering on stating the obvious for a while and then at the end it plays 10 clips and gives you a score for each. I was expecting a lot more than that? The way the site reads, it sounds as though you would get the entire lot of the clips, in the way that the book that covers the theory has the entire bank of questions they can ask. If not all of them, then, at least more than 10 poxy clips...that's 4 shy of a full test. Surely I'm missing something, they can't charge £16 for that?
I've got my re-test on Wendesday and after going through that DVD, I don't really feel any more conident that I did walking into the last one.
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