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As a car driver I'd just like to say thanks to all the bikers who bother to give a small wave of thanks or acknowledgement when I've seen them coming and moved across when in a queue of slow-moving traffic.
Some of us 'cagers' ARE looking out and aware of what's going on around us you know..
Some of us 'cagers' ARE looking out and aware of what's going on around us you know..
Always give a wave or a nod if I can.
At the moment many us winter bikers will have muffs fitted to the bars and will be concentrating very hard on the cars driving blind with misted up windows who can't see us etc. so excuse us if we don't wave so much at this time of year
We'll be our polite selves again once spring rears its head again though
At the moment many us winter bikers will have muffs fitted to the bars and will be concentrating very hard on the cars driving blind with misted up windows who can't see us etc. so excuse us if we don't wave so much at this time of year
We'll be our polite selves again once spring rears its head again though
Ordinary Bloke said:
As a car driver I'd just like to say FU to the bikers van drivers and xenon-equipped b@stards who ride/drive around on high-beam all day and night. You think it makes you safer (or well'ard) to dazzle everyone?
Can't we just have at least ONE nice thread on PH for once?Everyone always gets so
ing pissy all the time. Jeez.
robstvr said:
Sheesh, our lights are NOT on full beam, they are dipped. It's for both our sakes. Well, your paint's sake, my bones and blood. Get on a bike, and zip about with your lights off. Go on, dare you....
no lights? thats me on my old bonnie that is - admittedly its normally traveling slower than a modern bike tends too.I thought high-beam was a good idea when I had a 125 but kind of out grew that when I got to 600 and 750's, because I realized I was dazzling the car-driving-tw@ts driving towards me and distracting the car-driving-tw@ts in front of me. It's not big and it's not clever, and no 'you don't look hard' because I can't see you or the bike, just the high-beam.
But yes OP-er, courtesy nod and wave and all that, I fully agree. I like the Euro biker-to-biker finger-wave, very cool, UK bikers are usually too miserable (or maybe just too cold to move their fingers?)
But yes OP-er, courtesy nod and wave and all that, I fully agree. I like the Euro biker-to-biker finger-wave, very cool, UK bikers are usually too miserable (or maybe just too cold to move their fingers?)
Funk said:
As a car driver I'd just like to say thanks to all the bikers who bother to give a small wave of thanks or acknowledgement when I've seen them coming and moved across when in a queue of slow-moving traffic.
Some of us 'cagers' ARE looking out and aware of what's going on around us you know..
cheers!Some of us 'cagers' ARE looking out and aware of what's going on around us you know..
Err, Ordinary bloke, the europeans can do that as they pass each other on the right, so the hand they wave with is the left. The two finger wave is what i did when i lived out there. However, in blighty we pass on the other side, and it's not always so safe to take your hand off the throttle every time you pass another bike, hence the head nod we brits have, and that's not always so comfy doing 90 plus....
Ordinary Bloke, I'm amazed you have time to go outside and see any bikes- 639 posts in 1 month- got to be some kind of a record?!
All new bikes have to have ONE headlight on at all times. If a bike has BOTH headlights on, they're on main beam. Some older models may have both on with dipped beam, but it's illegal on a new bike (since about 2000'ish I think). It makes car drivers think it's a car in the distance. Bike headlights often appear higher because they move around a lot more (accelerating/braking). Can promise you it's not to make ourselves look "well 'ard".
And Chilli- I know what you mean about van drivers running off when confronted- I had one overtake me in a 30 (right outside my friends house who has two toddlers) on my ZX-6R. He seemed to be surprised when I gave him the bird as he did it, and wasn't at all keen on stopping at the junction when I arrived behind him waving at him to stop. Guess he thought passive little old ladies often ride superbikes
All new bikes have to have ONE headlight on at all times. If a bike has BOTH headlights on, they're on main beam. Some older models may have both on with dipped beam, but it's illegal on a new bike (since about 2000'ish I think). It makes car drivers think it's a car in the distance. Bike headlights often appear higher because they move around a lot more (accelerating/braking). Can promise you it's not to make ourselves look "well 'ard".
And Chilli- I know what you mean about van drivers running off when confronted- I had one overtake me in a 30 (right outside my friends house who has two toddlers) on my ZX-6R. He seemed to be surprised when I gave him the bird as he did it, and wasn't at all keen on stopping at the junction when I arrived behind him waving at him to stop. Guess he thought passive little old ladies often ride superbikes
srob said:
Ordinary Bloke, I'm amazed you have time to go outside and see any bikes- 639 posts in 1 month- got to be some kind of a record?!
All new bikes have to have ONE headlight on at all times. If a bike has BOTH headlights on, they're on main beam. Some older models may have both on with dipped beam, but it's illegal on a new bike (since about 2000'ish I think). It makes car drivers think it's a car in the distance. Bike headlights often appear higher because they move around a lot more (accelerating/braking). Can promise you it's not to make ourselves look "well 'ard".
I'm training for the 2012 Olympics. Forum posting Gold for Great Britainers.All new bikes have to have ONE headlight on at all times. If a bike has BOTH headlights on, they're on main beam. Some older models may have both on with dipped beam, but it's illegal on a new bike (since about 2000'ish I think). It makes car drivers think it's a car in the distance. Bike headlights often appear higher because they move around a lot more (accelerating/braking). Can promise you it's not to make ourselves look "well 'ard".
...or...
PH is far more entertaining the TV. Either way:
I'm an ex-biker, knee full of metal to prove it, so I realize the suspension travel is much greater than a car. So I'm not talking about the 'long flash' when a bike is accelerating hard (not sure what you mean about braking though, unless you're including Vespa's!
) but that's not what I'm talking about.Every so often, there's a 'hey look at me' biker driving around on high beam like it makes them look important. Quite a few times, I've seen it on the M25 as they snake through the two-and-halfth lane.
And just like all their 4 wheel equivalent, especially the t0ssers with Xenon light set to dazzle, I think they're more likely to be involved an accident than if they'd adjusted them correctly.
If on dipped-beam, you can't see where the road is dark in front of you, you've probably got them adjusted wrongly. IMHO.
But I hijacked the OP's thread... yes, let's all wave at everyone who's courteous on the roads! it's cheap and it makes the world a better place.
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