What type of bike should I get as my first bike
What type of bike should I get as my first bike
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Wasted Bullet

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426 posts

282 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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I have passed my DAS and I am now looking for my first bike. Should I spend as little as possible or should I aim for a say a £2000-£3000 and get a bike less than 5 years old with less than 20,000 miles?

My original plans were to look for a really cheep 600 bandit style bike circa £1,000-£1,200. Ride it for 6-12 months and P/X for a better or newer/more exspencive bike in the summer when I had got some more exsperience. SO that if I did drop it off it's stand or throw it down the road it wouldn't hurt my pocket too much.

But I am having dificulty finding anything under £1,500 and when I do then need work (obviously pushing the price up) so I may as well go for the newer machine with less miles.

What type of bike did you start with... is there any merit in going for a really cheap bike to start?

308mate

13,758 posts

252 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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Look for a half decent Yamaha Thundrcat would be my advice.

Most people under rate this bike so you cant get them cheaper than say a an older CBR600.

Or up your budget a bit.

Rubin215

2,084 posts

226 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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Get friendly with your local main dealership, establish a relationship with their salesmen (but don't piss them off by testing every bike in the shop!).
Once you are on friendly terms ask if they have anything coming in as a trade-in they want "underwritten."

Very often flash dealers don't want older or scruffier bikes as they don't want to spend money tidying them for the showroom or they might be older or higher mileage than they normally sell.
The problem for them is that many punters come in and just want rid of the old bike as part of the deal so they don't have to faf about trying to sell it themselves. Often the deal depends on the old bike being taken as part-ex, leading the dealer to buy a bike they don't really want.

Most dealers will then have someone else in the trade (a smaller bike shop or an independant trader) who will take these bikes on for whatever the agreed trade-in price was.
By offering to underwrite the sale, you are effectively buying the bike off it's previous owner and not the dealer so they have no liability (although they will sometimes add a hundred so they make something on the "arrangement&quotwink.

I have bought my last four bikes like this and been very happy (how about a "W" reg Blackbird for £2000!), though I am always very careful checking them over.

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

271 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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308mate said:
Look for a half decent Yamaha Thundrcat would be my advice.

Most people under rate this bike so you cant get them cheaper than say a an older CBR600.

Or up your budget a bit.
yes Can be had for around £1,000 upwards. Look on Fleabay.

Brite spark

2,104 posts

231 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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At under 5 years old the bikes you are loking at are going to have a reasonable value (for good quality bikes), lots will be low mileage examples that have only seen the road a handful of times a year. pick a budget for your first bike that you are comfortable with spending.
You should really consider bikes over 5 years if you want to look at the cheaper end of the market, personally I'd look to get a bike that I intended to keep for a while, but that if it did end up damaged it wouldn't be the end of the world, buying now is a good time (though px-ing in a few months may loose you a fortune), dealers are clearing stock ready for the new reg plate/trade-ins and the weathers cold so sales of all bikes including private and dealers won't be as good as the summer

"SO that if I did drop it off it's stand or throw it down the road it wouldn't hurt my pocket too much."

if it's got crash bungs on hopefully it'll be somewhat protected from being dropped, footpegs, brake levers etc will be comparable on most bikes to replace, cosmetic damage will de value any bike, a cheaper one slightly less so, but for the right price someone will have it when you've finished with it, you'll view a total loss as expensive regardless of the bike you buy if you bin it, consider fully comp insurance if you're really bothered about throwing it down the road, that is if it's not too much money extra to insure

"I am having dificulty finding anything under £1,500 and when I do then need work (obviously pushing the price up) so I may as well go for the newer machine with less miles."

If you've got this as a weekend toy I wouldn't comprimise for the bike you want for the sake of a few quid because there will always be the nagging feeling you bought the wrong bike, if a bike needs work allow for it in your offer when trying to buy a bike privately, if it's a dealer they should fix all of the faults on it and negotiate anything extra that you want doing as part of the purchase price (dealer should also negotiate on clothing helmet etc at discounted rate, so may help you get a better deal)


"What type of bike did you start with..."
honda rvf 400, expensive for their age but well worth it for the machine, got a little used to the power after two years but the cornering ability more than made up for that




Hooli

32,278 posts

230 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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i started off on a 1994 RF600 that cost £500. it did 20k in 9months with no really major problems & went for £400 PX when i got the new toy.
if your happy with spanners i'd be tempted by an old dog effectivley, you learn bike maintainace & dont have any worries about it getting nicked.

Chilli

17,320 posts

266 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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Get a loan an jump straight onto an R1. Hang on, that's ridiculous advice Chilli. Ah, but is it? I mean, you only go as fast as you twist the throttle right? Also, OP could be round mine in 25 mins, for me to give my vastly experienced opinion after a good ride out.....No?

SVS

3,824 posts

301 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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Chilli said:
Get a loan an jump straight onto an R1.
rofl

Still, the KSI statistics would look interesting. No problem for insurance either.

Nobody's gonna have this option after October anyway, once the new bike test comes in ...

LongLiveTazio

2,714 posts

227 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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Sorry to hijack but I'm currently looking at costs for a first bike.

Now, I reckon all in all I'd have maybe £2k to spend, which I'd put on a 0% credit card and pay off during the course of a year (should be comfortable enough). However, it occurs to me that I have 0 NCB so my insurance premium will be a bit high - at least at first. So should I instead go for a finance deal? Let me explain:

I currently have about half of a 0% loan outstanding that I'm paying off every month for laser eye surgery. It costs me £75 p/m. Theoretically I could pay off my loan (no charge) and kind of 'replace' that with some sort of finance deal for a new bike? Thinking being that if I catch the right dealer I could get a year's free insurance thrown in (I know BMW do this, don't they?)? This is obviously antoher big financial incentive.

I want a bike rather than a car because I want something I actually love anyway, so although I have no plans on getting an R1 (!) in the near future I would quite like something I'd want to keep for 3 years - hence the finance thoughts...

Any advice gratefully appreciated!

Edited by LongLiveTazio on Saturday 12th January 13:08

gsfrontera

516 posts

230 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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my first bike was a kawasaki ninja, dont be put off by people telling you what you can and cant handle. go and test drive a few bikes, find what you like, then you will be in a better position.

Craphouserat

1,542 posts

231 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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My firsty bike was a Fazer 600 - great first bike...like many other Fazers its up for sale on classifieds(under 20K on clock !!) great bike. There are many good bikes on PH's classified section..I'm honestly not advertising mine..smile

Stu R

21,674 posts

245 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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Could get a ZX6R or ZX7R for that, maybe a few hundred more, both should be totally noobie freindly. smile

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

236 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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sod the age,get a vfr400 nc30, or a cbr 400 and stick the early cbr600 engine in it....