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Another trip to the bike shop today, to look at lids and get some gloves. The shop is a owner run business, with both the owners stocking stuff that they themselves have used and vouch for.
These are my new gloves, "Rev-it! GT Corse". Apparently I have small hands

I'm also undecided between two lids, one was in stock and the other not, so the shop is ordering the second one in for me to see "in the flesh". I'll then buy one of the lids next week.
What do you lot reckon to these, both Shoei XR1000 helmets?


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These are my new gloves, "Rev-it! GT Corse". Apparently I have small hands

I'm also undecided between two lids, one was in stock and the other not, so the shop is ordering the second one in for me to see "in the flesh". I'll then buy one of the lids next week.
What do you lot reckon to these, both Shoei XR1000 helmets?


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Edited by Sossige on Saturday 5th April 16:54
Edited by Sossige on Sunday 8th June 20:38
Hi guys -
I really like the design of the blue one, but I think the black and white one (Shoei XR1000 Voyager TC-5) might be more "futureproof" in that it will go with most colour schemes. Call me Mr Undecided as both lids look great
Graham - I'm not sure what it retails for in general, but the shop I'm getting it from will give me a discount because of the relationship they have with the riding school that I am using. The Voyager will be a couple of pounds under £300, the blue one (Kagayama TC-2) will be £280.
SVS - the place I'm getting my gear from is http://www.bykebitz.co.uk - had great service from them so far. I'm not on my own bike yet, just completed my CBT and have my theory test booked. Going to arrange my DAS soon, hence wanting to get my own lid and gloves now
Rick - the gloves are £86: http://www.bykebitz.co.uk/acatalog/Revit_Gloves.ht...
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I really like the design of the blue one, but I think the black and white one (Shoei XR1000 Voyager TC-5) might be more "futureproof" in that it will go with most colour schemes. Call me Mr Undecided as both lids look great

Graham - I'm not sure what it retails for in general, but the shop I'm getting it from will give me a discount because of the relationship they have with the riding school that I am using. The Voyager will be a couple of pounds under £300, the blue one (Kagayama TC-2) will be £280.
SVS - the place I'm getting my gear from is http://www.bykebitz.co.uk - had great service from them so far. I'm not on my own bike yet, just completed my CBT and have my theory test booked. Going to arrange my DAS soon, hence wanting to get my own lid and gloves now

Rick - the gloves are £86: http://www.bykebitz.co.uk/acatalog/Revit_Gloves.ht...
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SVS said:
Not the usual Lotus colour scheme 
Good luck with your DAS. What bike are you considering getting?

Good luck with your DAS. What bike are you considering getting?

My Lotus is bright yellow, IMHO the only colour for an Elise

I've got a few possibilities in mind for my first bike. I intend spending £2000-ish on something to run for a year, get some experience/NCB and then review with a mind of getting a sports bike - I'd ultimately like a GSX-R600. Shame I can't transfer the NCB from my Lotus to a bike, as I have two car policies with max NCB; one for the daily hack and one for the Lotus.
The options for a first set of two wheels are:
Suzuki SV650S / SV650Sport
Yamaha Fazer 600
Honda CBR600F
Suzuki GSF600N / GSF600S Bandit
Honda CB500
I did include the Suzuki GSX650F in the list initially, but I think it will be too new for my purposes

Edited by Sossige on Saturday 5th April 19:35
Sossige said:
SVS, I just looked at your profile and saw the link to HPC. Are you involved with the HPC? If so, I guess you know Hugh Noblett? He's a great guy, met him during my Caterham days.
Loves talking about driving and is total gent
I know Hugh and did my HPC entrance with him, agreed, a total gent Loves talking about driving and is total gent

Edited by Sossige on Saturday 5th April 19:28

Hi again,
Though I found my HPC background even more useful on the bike; HPC helped me massively with overtaking skills and saved me from ending up in any hedges.
You're lucky that Hugh's taken over the Club's entrance course. I had to do my HPC entry course with John Lyon
Having ridden both, I'd recommend an SV650 over a Bandit any day. More fun, better handling, more modern, etc. I've not had a Hornet or CBR, but Honda build quality could be worth having. Though I've a litre Ducati now, which was my wise choice for year-round commuting
Incidentally, the Level 3 OCN course that both RideDrive and UK Advanced offer is biking's equivalent of the HPC entry level course
:
www.advanced-motorcycle-training.co.uk/TheAccredit...
www.ridedrive.co.uk/motorcycle-ocnl3.htm
Doing an OCN Level 2 or 3 course give you a 25% insurance reduction too, which is nice, particularly as the Level 2 course only takes a day.
Cheers
Rick448 said:
I know Hugh ... a total gent 
Yes, I too know Hugh from the High Performance Club. He's a truly nice guy and genius driving coach. Great to discover some HPC members on Biker Banter! 
Though I found my HPC background even more useful on the bike; HPC helped me massively with overtaking skills and saved me from ending up in any hedges.You're lucky that Hugh's taken over the Club's entrance course. I had to do my HPC entry course with John Lyon

Having ridden both, I'd recommend an SV650 over a Bandit any day. More fun, better handling, more modern, etc. I've not had a Hornet or CBR, but Honda build quality could be worth having. Though I've a litre Ducati now, which was my wise choice for year-round commuting

Incidentally, the Level 3 OCN course that both RideDrive and UK Advanced offer is biking's equivalent of the HPC entry level course
:www.advanced-motorcycle-training.co.uk/TheAccredit...
www.ridedrive.co.uk/motorcycle-ocnl3.htm
Doing an OCN Level 2 or 3 course give you a 25% insurance reduction too, which is nice, particularly as the Level 2 course only takes a day.
Cheers

Edited by SVS on Saturday 5th April 22:12
I never took any training with Hugh, although I benefited immensely from his advice given to the 7 club and spent ages chatting to him; if you're going to talk to him about driving, you need to make sure you don't have to be anywhere soon
I have taken further training from other people you may also know - Don Palmer and Andy Walsh.
Don Palmer is another great guy, not sure if he is a custodian to the HPC, but he's a fantastic coach. Andy's also very good, although he has a very different style to Don - learnt loads from him as well.
Wish my biking was going as well as driving - taking everything in on the bike means I'm missing things on the road that I would be well aware of when in a car. Guess my senses/brain are being bombarded with all the new bike stuff and it can't process other information. Guess it will all come with time, as much as I'd like to be on the ball right now
I have taken further training from other people you may also know - Don Palmer and Andy Walsh. Don Palmer is another great guy, not sure if he is a custodian to the HPC, but he's a fantastic coach. Andy's also very good, although he has a very different style to Don - learnt loads from him as well.
Wish my biking was going as well as driving - taking everything in on the bike means I'm missing things on the road that I would be well aware of when in a car. Guess my senses/brain are being bombarded with all the new bike stuff and it can't process other information. Guess it will all come with time, as much as I'd like to be on the ball right now

Edited by Sossige on Saturday 5th April 23:08
Don't worry about the biking. I was similar when I started. My driving was at a very high level, but it took a little while for biking to click. I suspect my biking may have overtaken my driving now.
What a shame you didn't go out with Hugh! I've done the odd course with Don Palmer, but a day on the road with Hugh Noblett is perhaps more special still. Road skills I learn from Hugh were invaluable on the bike, e.g. techniques for overtaking safely without missing any opportunities. (Don's another custodian to the HPC: he does the limit handling training for members.)
Good luck with the biking! When you pass, I'd really encourage you take further training - it's even more critical on the bike! Rapid Training are the very best instructors
but RideDrive and UK Advanced are excellent too 
Enjoy!
What a shame you didn't go out with Hugh! I've done the odd course with Don Palmer, but a day on the road with Hugh Noblett is perhaps more special still. Road skills I learn from Hugh were invaluable on the bike, e.g. techniques for overtaking safely without missing any opportunities. (Don's another custodian to the HPC: he does the limit handling training for members.)
Good luck with the biking! When you pass, I'd really encourage you take further training - it's even more critical on the bike! Rapid Training are the very best instructors
but RideDrive and UK Advanced are excellent too 
Enjoy!

Edited by SVS on Saturday 5th April 21:59
Sossige said:
I never took any training with Hugh, although I benefited immensely from his advice given to the 7 club and spent ages chatting to him; if you're going to talk to him about driving, you need to make sure you don't have to be anywhere soon
I have taken further training from other people you may also know - Don Palmer and Andy Walsh.
Don Palmer is another great guy, not sure if he is a custodian to the HPC, but he's a fantastic coach. Andy's also very good, although he has a very different style to Don - learnt loads from him as well.
Wish my biking was going as well as driving - taking everything in on the bike means I'm missing things on the road that I would be well aware of when in a car. Guess my senses/brain are being bombarded with all the new bike stuff and it can't process other information. Guess it will all come with time, as much as I'd like to be on the ball right now
I think my riding instructor originally imagined that I'm a bit "lacking" behind the wheel, had to explain to him that I simply couldn't process it all in one hit. He was somewhat surprised when I told him about my car background! I just kick myself when I miss stuff when riding that I know I'd normally be well on top of in a car.
Don is another fantastic coach, and i was lucky enough to be the first person to do honours 3 with him (HPC H3) I am now sticking to bikes again as my ex wife stopped me riding on the road but now i have the luxury of doing what i like
I have taken further training from other people you may also know - Don Palmer and Andy Walsh. Don Palmer is another great guy, not sure if he is a custodian to the HPC, but he's a fantastic coach. Andy's also very good, although he has a very different style to Don - learnt loads from him as well.
Wish my biking was going as well as driving - taking everything in on the bike means I'm missing things on the road that I would be well aware of when in a car. Guess my senses/brain are being bombarded with all the new bike stuff and it can't process other information. Guess it will all come with time, as much as I'd like to be on the ball right now

I think my riding instructor originally imagined that I'm a bit "lacking" behind the wheel, had to explain to him that I simply couldn't process it all in one hit. He was somewhat surprised when I told him about my car background! I just kick myself when I miss stuff when riding that I know I'd normally be well on top of in a car.
Edited by Sossige on Saturday 5th April 21:53

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