Photos of your bikes - chained to garage floor anchors
Discussion
Bit of a strange request I know, but after I have sold my Lotus, I'll get a garage floor anchor ready for chaining a bike to it.
I know that it's best to make sure that there's no slack in the chain, so that a tealeaf can't put the padlock on the ground and whack it, but in terms of positioning of the bike/anchor, I'm unsure of what would be best. I guess you don't want the anchor in the centre of the floor....
Advice and especially pics would be much appreciated.
I know that it's best to make sure that there's no slack in the chain, so that a tealeaf can't put the padlock on the ground and whack it, but in terms of positioning of the bike/anchor, I'm unsure of what would be best. I guess you don't want the anchor in the centre of the floor....
Advice and especially pics would be much appreciated.
The bike is positioned as close as possible to the anchor so it can't be moved to take out the slack. Extra chain length is put through the anchor hole twice to get the chain to the correct length (can't really be seen in the pic, it's round the back of the anchor loop, sorry!)which effectively locks the chain in place so the whole lot can't be rotated/slid through to get the lock to the floor. The chain goes round the frame, not anything that can be removed easily, like a wheel (my subframe is welded on - some bikes have bolt-on sub-frames, so basically find the biggest bit of frame to wrap the chain around).
The lock is close to the floor, but cannot easily be 'adjusted' by a scrote to actually rest on the floor, but ideally the lock would be a little closer to the subframe. Before I get all paranoid, I'll adjust it so it is!
Hope that's some use to you!
It seems that if a professional thieving scrote wants your bike badly enough, there's not a lot you can do the prevent it, sadly. Security is just to put off the chancers. Alpha-dot and smart water may be a fairly good deterrent, though.
You're not even safe when you go out for a hoon - bloke in America who had one of the first Desmosedichis (sp?) was held up at gun point at a set of traffic lights and the bike taken off him, poor bar steward...
My own bike has some extra special security - it looks s
te, so no-one would want to nick it in the first place!! 
You're not even safe when you go out for a hoon - bloke in America who had one of the first Desmosedichis (sp?) was held up at gun point at a set of traffic lights and the bike taken off him, poor bar steward...
My own bike has some extra special security - it looks s
te, so no-one would want to nick it in the first place!! Not sure if you can do it with all chains (probably not), but Almax ones can be made to be "variable" length. any link, goes through any other link, so if the chain is loose, you can cut a slot in a link somewhere in the middle of the chain, and chain it through there, instead of the end link.
Re: position of the ground anchor, I've heard people mentioning putting it up against the wall, so you can't really get to it or the chain very easily (bike is in the way).
Re: position of the ground anchor, I've heard people mentioning putting it up against the wall, so you can't really get to it or the chain very easily (bike is in the way).
Making anything completely secure seems impossible. Whatever you do, think about how hard it would be to overcome if you were the thief. Then think how you would overcome it, then try to find a way to stop that from working - if that makes any sense 
I have various security measures but don't really want to detail them on the net for obvious reasons. For physical security I use multiple Sold Secure/Thatcham chain locks and lock my bikes together. I may pass a lock through the wheel to prevent it being rolled along, but never just a wheel. As said before, pass the chain around chassis parts that can't be removed, or at least easily removed. I also use disc locks. None of this would totally prevent the worst, but all of which make it more difficult for the scum. With chain locks, the advice I always got is to try and prevent the possibility of the chain being placed on something allowing heavy impact attack. I can't see that taking the slack up by moving the bike further from the anchor would work: the scum aren't usually operating alone, so would probably lift the bike closer to the anchor. Take a serious look at the security of the garage too. Try to make it impossible to break in without making a lot of noise and firing alarms etc. Also, a baby monitor in the garage with the parent unit next to your bed will allow you to hear them long before they get to the stage of working on the chain lock. Finally, I have been told nylon rope is very effective, believe it or not. Apparently scum are rarely equipped to deal with it very well: disc cutters don't work, bolt croppers don't work and have been known to get stuck fast to nylon rope. The advice was to tie it up all round the bike - if it takes you ten minutes to get it off it'll take a thief the same. Bit of a PITA though.
I have various security measures but don't really want to detail them on the net for obvious reasons. For physical security I use multiple Sold Secure/Thatcham chain locks and lock my bikes together. I may pass a lock through the wheel to prevent it being rolled along, but never just a wheel. As said before, pass the chain around chassis parts that can't be removed, or at least easily removed. I also use disc locks. None of this would totally prevent the worst, but all of which make it more difficult for the scum. With chain locks, the advice I always got is to try and prevent the possibility of the chain being placed on something allowing heavy impact attack. I can't see that taking the slack up by moving the bike further from the anchor would work: the scum aren't usually operating alone, so would probably lift the bike closer to the anchor. Take a serious look at the security of the garage too. Try to make it impossible to break in without making a lot of noise and firing alarms etc. Also, a baby monitor in the garage with the parent unit next to your bed will allow you to hear them long before they get to the stage of working on the chain lock. Finally, I have been told nylon rope is very effective, believe it or not. Apparently scum are rarely equipped to deal with it very well: disc cutters don't work, bolt croppers don't work and have been known to get stuck fast to nylon rope. The advice was to tie it up all round the bike - if it takes you ten minutes to get it off it'll take a thief the same. Bit of a PITA though.
Thanks all - I agree, a determined pro will have it if they want it badly enough. All you can do is make it difficult for the chancers and make it so that a pro will just go and find an easier one.
I guess I will get an anchor and put it close to a wall, so that the bike covers the anchor itself.
I guess I will get an anchor and put it close to a wall, so that the bike covers the anchor itself.
One of the girls in my local bike club had her CBR400 chained securely to a ground anchor, some teenagers broke in and after trying un-sucsessfully to steal it wrote it off by smashing all the plastics and denting everything else.
They did get caught at least.
My speed triple gets locked securely to my 1985 GPZ, with the lock wrapped round both frames. The chain is akward to get to and the GPZ is properly heavy!
The problem is that the bikes live in the same garage as all my tools including angle grinders and bolt cutters, so I don't bother going too over the top with security.
They did get caught at least.
My speed triple gets locked securely to my 1985 GPZ, with the lock wrapped round both frames. The chain is akward to get to and the GPZ is properly heavy!
The problem is that the bikes live in the same garage as all my tools including angle grinders and bolt cutters, so I don't bother going too over the top with security.
If only I'd read this thread last night before going to bed it might have reminded me.
I left the CG in the garden after work yesterday without locking it up because of the rain (I know, I know), forgot to lock it later and this morning it's gone
Now it's a day off work and sort out the police and insurance etc.
If I ever catch them I'll hang 'em by their Scrotums
I left the CG in the garden after work yesterday without locking it up because of the rain (I know, I know), forgot to lock it later and this morning it's gone
Now it's a day off work and sort out the police and insurance etc.
If I ever catch them I'll hang 'em by their Scrotums
WestYorkie said:
If only I'd read this thread last night before going to bed it might have reminded me.
I left the CG in the garden after work yesterday without locking it up because of the rain (I know, I know), forgot to lock it later and this morning it's gone
Now it's a day off work and sort out the police and insurance etc.
If I ever catch them I'll hang 'em by their Scrotums
sorry for you mate I left the CG in the garden after work yesterday without locking it up because of the rain (I know, I know), forgot to lock it later and this morning it's gone
Now it's a day off work and sort out the police and insurance etc.
If I ever catch them I'll hang 'em by their Scrotums
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