Booing Casey Stoner

[Conian]

Casey was in the papers today, bit unhappy about being booed at Donnington.
Was anyone of us lot there? ( I wasn't )
Will anyone here admit to booing?

My thoughts...
Stoner is a damned good rider, BUT I believe he lacks the last 1/10th ability to 'feel' the bike which is why he's fast but used to crash often.

I also think that the Ducatti is a nasty bike to ride, but has some superior traction control on it that allows the rider to use it's immense BHP, and I think Stoner has got it sussed, the computers are doing that last 1/10th of 'feel' for him and he has faith in the bike and is therefore very fast indeed.

I have issue with how the Duke has dominated races, but it's not Ducatti's fault and it's not Stoner's fault, they've made a bike within the rules and looked at things slightly differently. They deserved their wins.

I dont like traction control and I hope they get rid of it soon, OK so the bikes will be harder to ride but then we see more rider skill.

Stoner's only crime in my eyes, was his interviews where he tried to claim that his win was not down to a speed advantage when it clearly was (2007 season)

OK I'm a Rossi fan and I didnt complain when he dominated, you cant ban rider talent but you can ban traction control. Pleeease ban it.

Comments on Stoner/booing/Traction Control please.

Edited by Conian on Tuesday 24th June 12:45

[dern]

Conian said:

Comments on Stoner/booing/Traction Control please.

If true it's a st way to behave.

How did he hear them though?

[Conian]

dern said:

How did he hear them though?

Didn't get time to read it all before work... dunno sorry!

Found link...
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,2204...

[Chilli]

Just read on the BBC that he saw an old lady giving him the "booing sign" on his slow down lao, as well as a bloke making obscene jestures. He also said that when her went up onto the podium at the Champions of Speed thingy, he was booed then. Therefore "I won't be doing that again".
Not a nice way for people to behace TBH. I don't particularly like him, but he's still a genius on a bike, and therefore gets my respect.

[IsMad]

I was just reading this on the BBC and have to say that I am a little surprised at this to be honest. Yeah he maybe a little lacking personality wise but he is a world champion, bike, traction control or whatever, not going to get into that one. He does deserve respect for his acheivements, and to be booed whilst supporting a charity auction displays a lack of intelligence that defies belief.

[anonymous-user]

I thought it was outrageous that Casey Stoner was booed last year; for it to happen again at the same circuit is a disgrace.

I wish that I had the riding skills or technical know-how to make an informed comment about the use of TC, but I can't.

I do know that I miss seeing the riders 'backing it in' (Melandri at Philip Island: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45R9AB_3N5E; Chris Vermulen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oemeurLbvTo&amp... Sete Gibernau: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbuqt1Zq-ds&fea...

It was great to see Mika Kallio doing this on his 250 on Sunday, but it's so rare these days in MotoGP.

[Chilli]

Gethyn said:

I thought it was outrageous that Casey Stoner was booed last year; for it to happen again at the same circuit is a disgrace.

I wish that I had the riding skills or technical know-how to make an informed comment about the use of TC, but I can't.

I do know that I miss seeing the riders 'backing it in' (Melandri at Philip Island: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45R9AB_3N5E; Chris Vermulen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oemeurLbvTo&amp... Sete Gibernau: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbuqt1Zq-ds&fea...

It was great to see Mika Kallio doing this on his 250 on Sunday, but it's so rare these days in MotoGP.

Not forgetting the unreal Tony Elias "attacking" Rossi with his bike last year. ps - If anyone knows what race this was and has a link, I'd be very grateful! Will never forget Julioan Ryder asking if it was legal to throw your bike at another rider!! Elias went onto win IIRC.

[Fats25]

Estoril?

[y2blade]

you sad f-ckers booing Casey!!!

the only thing he's done "wrong" is show the others the way to ride a evil handling motorbike with 240+bhp!!!!

Edited by y2blade on Tuesday 24th June 13:12

[dern]

Chilli said:

He also said that when her went up onto the podium at the Champions of Speed thingy, he was booed then. Therefore "I won't be doing that again".

Now that is appalling given that the bloke gave up his time for a good cause.

[anonymous-user]

Not forgetting the unreal Tony Elias "attacking" Rossi with his bike last year. ps - If anyone knows what race this was and has a link, I'd be very grateful! Will never forget Julioan Ryder asking if it was legal to throw your bike at another rider!! Elias went onto win IIRC.
[/quote]


This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KTyl3_zew

Don't you just love You Tube?!!

[Rawwr]

From what I saw, a flock of people in '46' tshirts tried to block him on his cool down lap giving wr gestures and various combinations of fingers. He was then booed when he took the podium along with Pedrosa, albeit Pedrosa got it a little less. At last years Day of Champions he was booed when he appeared on the stage, which was pretty disgraceful and then booed again when he took the podium. Pedrosa was booed when he won in 2006 and took the podium.

British 'fans' can be really embarrassing at times and it just seems to be getting worse every year.

[rev-erend]

It seemed a pretty classy and peerless ride to me.

Cant say I did not like him - apart from being so young, gifted and rich.. and I'm none of those

Edited by rev-erend on Tuesday 24th June 13:36

[Chilli]

Well, hopefully he also saw the thousands of people clapping at his performance, and wishing they had the same ability.

[wassy]

The sooner these 'fans' clear off back to watching football matches and Jeremy Kyle the better.
Didn't happen before Rossi came along

[Phone_Monkey]

Was taking a dump when he won, but he was bloomin quick, even in the wet on sat. booing at these events should really be reserved for unsportsmanlike behaviour, and tbh was uncalled for. fair play to JT for finishing the race knowing he was not going to get a decent result too

[Dunc B]

IIRC when they gave the top speeds during the the actual race, i think Stoner's Duke was either 5th or 6th on top end so can't say the same for top end this year.
Noooo way he should have been booed

[Exige46]

Sadly the Brits have a history of it - it happened when Kocinski came to WSB at the time Foggy was riding. I have only seen it happen when there is a foreign rider up there and competing with either a home grown hero (Foggy at the time) or a hero that has been almost universally adopted. I can understand it - Foggy, Rossi is the favourite and Stoner is the enemy of the moment, but wouldn't condone it as they are all heroes to a degree, and all put there lives at risk to put on a show. Stoner probably has not done himself any favours with his post race comments of this year, and I lost a degree of respect following the slow motion footage of him taking a long look at Melandri as Stoner passed him in qualifying, before shaking his head with disdain. Showed a certain amount of disrespect for a fellow rider who is having a difficult time of things at the moment.

What I really don't understand is the booing at a charity event - that really is poor.

[Rawwr]

Top speeds from race:

1. Dani Pedrosa - 273.5
2. Colin Edwards - 272.2
3. Jorge Lorenzo - 271.2
4. Valentino Rossi - 270.8
5. Casey Stoner - 270.6

6. Tony Elias - 270.4
9. Marco Melandri - 268.7
11. Sylvain Guintoli - 267.9

Amazing how fast those underpowered M1s go, isn't it?

[Conian]

Rawwr said:

Top speeds from race:

1. Dani Pedrosa - 273.5
2. Colin Edwards - 272.2
3. Jorge Lorenzo - 271.2
4. Valentino Rossi - 270.8
5. Casey Stoner - 270.6

6. Tony Elias - 270.4
9. Marco Melandri - 268.7
11. Sylvain Guintoli - 267.9

Amazing how fast those underpowered M1s go, isn't it?

M1 isn't short on power any more, but top speed at Donny is less biased towards BHP than other tracks due to short straight and scary corner just before it.

Do ya have top speed results for Monza?