Got pulled by a bike cop earlier...
Got pulled by a bike cop earlier...
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hornetrider

Original Poster:

63,161 posts

236 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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And all he wanted to do was chat bikes and hard sell me a Bikesafe weekend!

He sat on my 4 o'clock for about half a mile then pootled past and waved me over. I got off and he came over and was admiring the bike (Falco), and said he had a Tuono himself. I pointed out my bling, we had a bit of a chat, and then he proceeded to bang on about Bikesafe for about 10 minutes. I wouldn't have minded but I was on my lunch break! hehe

Anyone been on one? Obviously as a total riding Legend I'm not seeing the point in the £80, but am willing to be persuadedwink

Steve_T

6,356 posts

303 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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The one I attended at the ACE cafe was £25 and included lunch - £80 yikes

m3psm

988 posts

252 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I did one recently and it was good. Worth a day out, if only as a refresher, but sure you'd learn something from it.

Apache

39,731 posts

315 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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You might want to reword the title.....I had Village People type images when I read that

black-k1

12,810 posts

260 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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Would you spend £80 (or more) on a helmet?

A Bike Safe course will ‘save your life’ many more times than a helmet will!

Regardless how good you are, you can never have too much advanced training.

hornetrider

Original Poster:

63,161 posts

236 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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Apache said:
You might want to reword the title.....I had Village People type images when I read that
hehe

k1 - what's the stance on, ahhhh, making progress on a Bikesafe weekend?

Chilli

17,320 posts

267 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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Apache said:
You might want to reword the title.....I had Village People type images when I read that
Quality!!!

Steve_T

6,356 posts

303 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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hornetrider said:
Apache said:
You might want to reword the title.....I had Village People type images when I read that
hehe

k1 - what's the stance on, ahhhh, making progress on a Bikesafe weekend?
It's about education not enforcement. Making progress encouraged.

Mandat

4,651 posts

269 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I did one a couple of years ago at the South London venue and I'm thinking of doing one again. The costs was only about £25.00 and included lunch.

The day was very good and very educational, particularly as there are 2 rideouts with a de-brief (and lunch) in between.


black-k1

12,810 posts

260 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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hornetrider said:
k1 - what's the stance on, ahhhh, making progress on a Bikesafe weekend?
Depends on the individual who will be supervising you but most of the advanced trainers I have come across treat 30, 40 and 50 limits as sacrosanct but NSL is pretty much ‘game on’ (with about 80 to 85ish as a realistic top end.) Obviously you can’t quote me on that and you must obey all limits at all times! (As, of course, I do!)wink

T5R+

1,226 posts

240 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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black-k1 said:
Depends on the individual who will be supervising you but most of the advanced trainers I have come across treat 30, 40 and 50 limits as sacrosanct but NSL is pretty much ‘game on’ (with about 80 to 85ish as a realistic top end.) Obviously you can’t quote me on that and you must obey all limits at all times! (As, of course, I do!)wink
Sounds similar to the IAM procedure of many years ago - not sure if they allow you to ride this way today.

Chilli

17,320 posts

267 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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black-k1 said:
hornetrider said:
k1 - what's the stance on, ahhhh, making progress on a Bikesafe weekend?
Depends on the individual who will be supervising you but most of the advanced trainers I have come across treat 30, 40 and 50 limits as sacrosanct but NSL is pretty much ‘game on’ (with about 80 to 85ish as a realistic top end.) Obviously you can’t quote me on that and you must obey all limits at all times! (As, of course, I do!)wink
EXACTLY my experience of my IAM group.

speed8

5,128 posts

304 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I just done a Bikesafe course and joined the IAM just before that.

The Bikesafe thing was the North Yorkshire one and was quite good. It started with an evening watching a video and an open discussion about the subjects in question. We also had a chat about counter steering and how it works, etc (good job as some of the group had heard about it but didn't think they actually done it or what happens with it). We also had a chat about the law with regard to filtering and undertaking and the reality of what actually happens and how to get things on your side if the poo hits the fan.

The Sunday was the ride out and it's two to one. The Bike cop was on an unmarked R1 and didn't hang about. It was a fairly fast ride considering I had never been on the route before (A's and B's, no Dual Carriageway as they're boring smile ), the comments were constructive and they never bothered about the small plate and off road cans.

Price was £50 and we got the course plus a couple of DVD's, couple of keyrings, a neck warmer and a £50 voucher towards further training.

I enjoyed it, was a good day out

camgear

6,941 posts

225 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I enjoyed my Bikesafe (Wirral, Merseyside) and learnt a lot from it.

T

Rach81

8,824 posts

247 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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I've just done bikesafe, was a very worthwhile day for. Did get told off for going too slow at NSL so yeah pootle on a bit smile

Rocket Pepper

1,281 posts

247 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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hornetrider said:
Obviously as a total riding Legend I'm not seeing the point in the £80, but am willing to be persuadedwink
I too am a total riding legend biggrin

I'd fancy doing a Bikesafe, but the police need to make Bikesafe more attractive to those who don't believe they need or would benefit significantly enough from attending. Older faster farts like me then!

The pursuit, including high speed, that all police motorcyclists in training have to complete successfully, should be a part of Bikesafe. Debrief and riding assessment for successful riders should be rewarded with a Bikesafe police badge. This badge should be displayed on your bike and be a 'get out of jail free' card in some respects, where a policeman can use his discretion further than 'normal' in respect of whatever law or regulation infringement the policeman deems you may have fractured. Good reason to take up Bikesafe training then.

Edited by Rocket Pepper on Wednesday 2nd July 00:18