Does anyone else think the new test is a good idea?
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I used to think the new test was a silly idea. Some parts of it are still silly but if it stops people riding like the person in this video then surely it can only be a good thing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vctLAvlkgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vctLAvlkgo
Right then....I feel I'm more qualified than most to see what's happening here...
Actualy, I'd put money on it that this is completely set-up. The guy wasn't even going fast, and even with target fixation and the extremely poor positioning/vision, he could have got round all corners with one wheel on the ground.
ps - Is Wheel spelt correctly.....just looks wrong.
Cheers.
Actualy, I'd put money on it that this is completely set-up. The guy wasn't even going fast, and even with target fixation and the extremely poor positioning/vision, he could have got round all corners with one wheel on the ground.
ps - Is Wheel spelt correctly.....just looks wrong.
Cheers.
Chilli said:
Right then....I feel I'm more qualified than most to see what's happening here...
Actualy, I'd put money on it that this is completely set-up. The guy wasn't even going fast, and even with target fixation and the extremely poor positioning/vision, he could have got round all corners with one wheel on the ground.
ps - Is Wheel spelt correctly.....just looks wrong.
Cheers.
It is a bit hard to believe, isn't it? Even I'm not that crap. Not quite. It's quite uncomfortable to watch him approach each corner, wondering what's going to happen, but then he does get some right - strange!Actualy, I'd put money on it that this is completely set-up. The guy wasn't even going fast, and even with target fixation and the extremely poor positioning/vision, he could have got round all corners with one wheel on the ground.
ps - Is Wheel spelt correctly.....just looks wrong.
Cheers.
Can't see the new test making any difference to this rider, if it is genuine - there's still no real assessment of higher speed cornering.
Taita said:
That vidoe has been doing the rounds since the guy posted it over on the Org. He just target fixated.
People were taking bets on the fact he would be dead by August, which is a bit off.
Theres a long thread on sv650.org if you want to read his comments (and others)
Link? There's a lot on that board!People were taking bets on the fact he would be dead by August, which is a bit off.
Theres a long thread on sv650.org if you want to read his comments (and others)
Carl-H said:
I thought the new test was to include more road riding on country lanes etc. where you have to actually corner?
I think that video seems like target fixation as he doesn't move his helmet to look round the corners.
Sorry Carl, forgot about the new test comment! Not really sure what the new regs are....anyone with a link??I think that video seems like target fixation as he doesn't move his helmet to look round the corners.
Just google new bike test uk and you'll find it.
The video is pretty rubbish, he shouldn't have passed his test as you need to be able to get around corners at the speed limit for your direct access- otherwise you'd fail on grounds of not being in control of the bike.
I was talking with her indoors about the new bike test, it would benefit a lot of urban riders as the new bits (slalom, emergency stop, and obstacle avoidance at speed) are evry relevant for them.
I think they will have a few prangs as well though as this sort of stuff can easily go wrong - hence why they have included it in the new test.
Still, it'll keep the instructors and examiners amused plus keep suzuki etc. in the money for brake/clutch levers!
I personally think its a good thing and if you're serious about owning a powerful bike and riding safely you cant get enough experience prior to owning one -these skills matter.
The video is pretty rubbish, he shouldn't have passed his test as you need to be able to get around corners at the speed limit for your direct access- otherwise you'd fail on grounds of not being in control of the bike.
I was talking with her indoors about the new bike test, it would benefit a lot of urban riders as the new bits (slalom, emergency stop, and obstacle avoidance at speed) are evry relevant for them.
I think they will have a few prangs as well though as this sort of stuff can easily go wrong - hence why they have included it in the new test.
Still, it'll keep the instructors and examiners amused plus keep suzuki etc. in the money for brake/clutch levers!
I personally think its a good thing and if you're serious about owning a powerful bike and riding safely you cant get enough experience prior to owning one -these skills matter.
If i was in the position to be taking my test after October i'd argue it was'nt a good idea.
But...
Seeing some people and how they ride on the road it makes you think that it probably is a good idea.
Shame they don't do the same sort of thing for cars.
I think in the US they do an offroad course don't they?
They have things like manacins popping up for emergency stops etc?
Or is that just something i've been watching too much tv?
But...
Seeing some people and how they ride on the road it makes you think that it probably is a good idea.
Shame they don't do the same sort of thing for cars.
I think in the US they do an offroad course don't they?
They have things like manacins popping up for emergency stops etc?
Or is that just something i've been watching too much tv?
His riding is awful! Not sayin I am perfect, I have had a couple of silly moments as I'm sure we all have, but 3 in the space of one ride!
As for the test, can never be a bad thing I guess, but the focus should be on educating car drivers to be more aware of bikes. I personally think they should be made to watch a 10 minute video on board a bike just to see how fast they can accelerate and how badly they are treated on the road.
As for the test, can never be a bad thing I guess, but the focus should be on educating car drivers to be more aware of bikes. I personally think they should be made to watch a 10 minute video on board a bike just to see how fast they can accelerate and how badly they are treated on the road.
Now that my test is over with I can say that it does need to be a bit harder really. I wouldn't have a problem with the new test if there were going to be centres everywhere (I think there's going to be about 60 in the UK but that will take time and only 20ish will be ready for October) so people don't have to travel to take the test (and lessons will be near the test centre so they will have to travel a distance for the training) and if the price was going to stay the same.
I cant see it being a bad thing.
But some people who've never ridden a bike before do the theory one week, the cbt a week later then onto a 500 the day after and their test the day after that.
They've got 3 days worth of biking experience under their belts before they can ride whatever size machine they like n the open road & for some people with no common sense it's a dangerous cocktail.
Admittedly i think car drivers should take some sort of off-raod test / obstacle course before they do thei test too!
But some people who've never ridden a bike before do the theory one week, the cbt a week later then onto a 500 the day after and their test the day after that.
They've got 3 days worth of biking experience under their belts before they can ride whatever size machine they like n the open road & for some people with no common sense it's a dangerous cocktail.
Admittedly i think car drivers should take some sort of off-raod test / obstacle course before they do thei test too!
lawrence567 said:
I cant see it being a bad thing.
But some people who've never ridden a bike before do the theory one week, the cbt a week later then onto a 500 the day after and their test the day after that.
They've got 3 days worth of biking experience under their belts before they can ride whatever size machine they like n the open road & for some people with no common sense it's a dangerous cocktail.
Admittedly i think car drivers should take some sort of off-raod test / obstacle course before they do thei test too!
Depends on perspective I guess:But some people who've never ridden a bike before do the theory one week, the cbt a week later then onto a 500 the day after and their test the day after that.
They've got 3 days worth of biking experience under their belts before they can ride whatever size machine they like n the open road & for some people with no common sense it's a dangerous cocktail.
Admittedly i think car drivers should take some sort of off-raod test / obstacle course before they do thei test too!
When I did my car test, I did nine hours training with an instructor and another half dozen with my dad.
Bike test was a days CBT, theory and 10 two hour lessons, so 25-28 hours (arguable).
A Private Pilots Licence is 40 hours.
I reckon the new part has got to add some time onto the training required to get a licence so that's putting Cat. A into the same region as PPL! I'm not convinced it needs that.
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