motogp with spoilers

[deevlash]

anyone else watching? good start by JT but hes slipping back now, lorenzo off now too. Oh and its a bit wet.

[deevlash]

:O

[Rawwr]

That was painful to watch. I think everyone saw the Pedrosa crash coming.

[130R]

Good stuff from Rossi, back in the lead of the championship

[RemaL]

good to watch

[Number 7]

Stoner made them all look second rate - again.

7.

[Zead]

I think Rossi was waiting for Stoner to bin it as well, I thought VR was going to push but was sensible. CS is looking bang in form again and VR is the only one to keep him honest

[Rocket Pepper]

Number 7 said:

Stoner made them all look second rate - again.

7.

You mean the Ducatis electronics package of course. Witness Stoner's stonking wheelie over the line against Rossi's not happening.

[shot2bits]

Rocket Pepper said:

Number 7 said:

Stoner made them all look second rate - again.

7.

You mean the Ducatis electronics package of course. Witness Stoner's stonking wheelie over the line against Rossi's not happening.

That is a fair point actually, to nail the bike and pull a wheelie like that without simply spinning the rear is pretty amazing in the electronic sense!

Melandri looked to actually be doing OK until he binned it which is a shame. Really hope he gets a fair ride next year (second half of this year) and does better.

[G Man]

Rocket Pepper said:

Number 7 said:

Stoner made them all look second rate - again.

7.

You mean the Ducatis electronics package of course. Witness Stoner's stonking wheelie over the line against Rossi's not happening.

If it was just the electronic package all Ducati riders would be at the front, Stoner makes the difference on the Duke.

In fact Guintoni turned off his traction control and came 6th which is his best result IIRC.

Far more important to the Duke was the remapping of the 2008 engine to smooth it out, which since they added it back in has put Stoner back on top.

PS Not denying Ducati has the best package since the new engine map, but Rossi and Stoner in the wet setting almost identical times fantastic

[Rocket Pepper]

Rossi's smoothness in the wet at that pace made everyone else look ragged.

[Taffer]

Good ride from Rossi, playing it safe, and Stoner proving he's the only man that can tame that Ducati - impressive stuff, electronic assistance or not. The next half of the season should be a belter.

Did you also notice Rossi did a burn-out beside some of the marshalls? A scene not seen at Donington thanks to the tts who thought it would be a good idea to swarm the track during the race.......

[Number 7]

Taffer said:

A scene not seen at Donington thanks to the tts who thought it would be a good idea to swarm the track during the race.......

I have to say you're one of the few people to share my view of those to55ers, and to express it publicly. Otherwise, there has been something of a deathly hush from the VR massiv.

7.

[castrolcraig]

Rocket Pepper said:

Rossi's smoothness in the wet at that pace made everyone else look ragged.

apart from casey stoner......

Number 7 said:

Taffer said:

A scene not seen at Donington thanks to the tts who thought it would be a good idea to swarm the track during the race.......

I have to say you're one of the few people to share my view of those to55ers, and to express it publicly. Otherwise, there has been something of a deathly hush from the VR massiv.

7.

indeed, the track invasion was horrendous, and yes, 99 per cent were sausage boys lovers.....

[macdeb]

Stoner was a class act, no question he is a contender for title. Rossi too and kept his cool.

I am a HUGE Rossi fan, but I'd never put others at risk to get close to him and resent the fact that some have to point the finger and generalise at being 'rossi fans' that cause trouble. It's a dhead minority with others that get caught up in the occasion without thinking. I was at Donnington when Niall McKenzie came 4th [behind Shwantz/Rainey etc] Big track invasion then. I think it's a Donnington/brit' thing.
Why knock Rossi? [sausage boy/cheating to55er?] Not his fault. Probably the greatest rider to throw a leg over a bike [whom everyone wants to beat] and has also brought many fans back to watch the top class, and has a sense of humour. Phuckin' beyond me.

Edited by macdeb on Monday 14th July 21:31

Edited by macdeb on Monday 14th July 21:49

[Number 7]

macdeb said:

I was at Donnington when Niall McKenzie came 4th (behind Shwantz/Rainey etc) Big track invasion then. I think it's a Donnington/brit' thing.

And I was there that day as well - strangely I didn't feel the need to invade the track, whether the racing was over or not. Did you? These dicjheads should realise that even when not racing, its still a live track. It's not clever to force riders to take to the grass to avoid the muppets on track. There will come a day when a rider or a muppet is injured or worse as a result of this crassly irresponsible behaviour.

7

Edited by Number 7 on Monday 14th July 21:45

Edited by Number 7 on Monday 14th July 21:46

[macdeb]

Number 7 said:

macdeb said:

I was at Donnington when Niall McKenzie came 4th (behind Shwantz/Rainey etc) Big track invasion then. I think it's a Donnington/brit' thing.

And I was there that day as well - strangely I didn't feel the need to invade the track, whether the racing was over or not. Did you? These dicjheads should realise that even when not racing, its still a live track. It's not clever to force riders to take to the grass to avoid the muppets on track. There will come a day when a rider or a muppet is injured or worse as a result of this crassly irresponsible behaviour.

7

Edited by Number 7 on Monday 14th July 21:45

Edited by Number 7 on Monday 14th July 21:46

No I didn't. Yes, they are 'dicjheads'. [whatever they are] But, it 'aint just down to the 'VR massiv' [whatever that is] Don't just scramble for a name just because YOU don't like the bloke. It's well known on here that I haven't much time for Pedrosa, but I'll give credit where due and will not link him to the the behaviour of others.

Edited by macdeb on Monday 14th July 22:02

Edited by macdeb on Monday 14th July 22:03

[macdeb]

Quinny said:

I couldn't believe the Bookies odds never changed when it was obvious it was going to be a wet race.

20-1 on Vemeulen had to be next best thing to sure fired eachway bet


Thankyou very much Mr Bookie About time you messed up

Ooooh 'ello bloke. Long time etc, don't tell me you cashed in on it

[macdeb]

Quinny said:

I didn't break the bank of Monte Carlo

But I did have a nice little win for once

Cool, Beers on you at the growl then

[Johno]

Rocket Pepper said:

Number 7 said:

Stoner made them all look second rate - again.

7.

You mean the Ducatis electronics package of course. Witness Stoner's stonking wheelie over the line against Rossi's not happening.

RP

I was wondering whether you'd had the opportunity to watch MotoGP at first hand this year ? It may really change your view of who is using how much TC on track . . . Stoner is a long long way from being at the top of that list in my experience at Donington and Assen this year . . Limited experience I grant you, but I do go to a significant number of BSB rounds etc and you can hear who's running TC and who isn't fairly easily.

Edwards, Rossi, Toseland, Melandri, Pedrosa, Hayden all had more TC dialled in at both races that I was at than Stoner did, the key time of the race for TC to start to make a really significant difference is after 2/3rds distance when the tyre starts to go off, prior to that it is nowhere ear as noticeable as in the first half to 2/3rds.

My view is that the way the Ducati has been re-mapped is allowing Stoner to run less TC than the competition and therefore maintaining the full potential of the engine and not starving it of revs and speed when he needs it most. Also bare in mind that melandri, Guintoli and Elias all had the same re-mapped software available to them at the same time and each of them said it made little to no difference to their lap times, but for Stoner it was a revalation.

If its the fantastic Ducati electronics package why is Melandri likely out of work in a week ?

As for Wheelies, how was it possible for Rossi to do one at Donington the other year in conditions equal to those of yesterday, let alone ride side saddle playing the violin ? I suppose that when Number 7 and I were stood in the pouringg rain that year and timed Rossi pulling out 3.7secs on Barros in a single lap heading to the win that was down to purely his natural talent and had nothing to do with any electronics at all

Yes, Number 7 and I share a passion for bikes, I like to always wear my Rossi Official Fan Club T shirt in his presence, just helps the winding up

Stoner really is a talent when in partnership with that bike and his ride yesterday was a fantastic example of his ability. I just hope Pedrosa is fit for Laguna as I want to see the championship be fought between the 3 of them for the rest of the season with barely any points in it . . .

Edited by Johno on Tuesday 15th July 00:26