Best R1 performance increase for £700...................
Best R1 performance increase for £700...................
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flyinyam

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175 posts

231 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Hi all,

Promised the boss i won't buy ANOTHER track bike, so she's given me a small allowance to improve current ride.

Am looking to spend around £700 on it. ('99 R1).

Just wondering what mods would give me most return for my money...

Not sure what is best buy.

Any advice appreciated.

Cheers Russell

lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Exhaust, air fulter & power commander?

RemaL

25,103 posts

265 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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I always thought the best way to spend your money is for the suspension and tyres. the best you can get to help on track or raod. to save weight I also think don't bother saving gramms on carbon but loose weight. I need to. rolleyes
as for performace BHP upgrades go with PC3, exhaust and or air filter but from what I have read the air filter don't do a great deal apart from easy to clean and lasts longer.

flyinyam

Original Poster:

175 posts

231 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Bike is carb model, so no power commander option i'm afraid


texasjohn

3,687 posts

262 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Don't the R1's come with Titanium exhausts?

If they do then I'm not sure you'll get anything that weighs much less but of course an aftermarket will give more power.

If I'm wrong then you could get an aftermarket titanium system and kill two birds with one stone, so to speak.

Also, if you're on a limited budget (assuming Ti systems break the budget alone) don't discount second hand systems from ebay...

When I had my ZX7R I picked up a Two Brothers carbon can from ebay.com for $50.00.

Just for the acoustics, didn't bother to rejet, but it shows how much you might save by looking on the 'bay.

texasjohn

3,687 posts

262 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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flyinyam said:
Bike is carb model, so no power commander option i'm afraid
Bonus! a handful of brass jets are going to be way cheaper than a PC! Ok, you have the dyno time to pay for but if you do some research you can probably find the right jet combo for the exhaust system you purchase by searching on some R1 specific forums.

blade7

11,311 posts

247 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Revalve forks, set of used 03 yokes, used ohlins shock. Been there, done that.yes

Beemer-5

7,897 posts

245 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Decent tyres, get the carbs set up perfectly, service it with the best oil.

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

237 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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have the engine blueprinted, can, re jet, and as said already, diff yoke and forks and have the rear shock re done

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

272 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Smaller front sprocket

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

270 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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castrolcraig said:
have the engine blueprinted, can, re jet, and as said already, diff yoke and forks and have the rear shock re done
All for £700 - I don't really think so.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Training, and Ryvitas.

sprinter885

11,550 posts

258 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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...and the prunes diet for a week..!

Not now Kato

1,169 posts

230 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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The best thing I did with mine was a pair of Dymag's, must get a pair (or similar) used for 700 nowadays.


Beemer-5

7,897 posts

245 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Silver993tt said:
castrolcraig said:
have the engine blueprinted, can, re jet, and as said already, diff yoke and forks and have the rear shock re done
All for £700 - I don't really think so.
That's about £2K.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

270 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Beemer-5 said:
Silver993tt said:
castrolcraig said:
have the engine blueprinted, can, re jet, and as said already, diff yoke and forks and have the rear shock re done
All for £700 - I don't really think so.
That's about £2K.
- at the minimum. The OP wants to spend £700, no?

Beemer-5

7,897 posts

245 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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I just checked, you are right, £3K roughly!!

moto_traxport

4,265 posts

252 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Main thing is the shock - its not just the quality of the suspension its the length (!) that makes the early bikes easier to steer. Secondhand Ohlins might be £300ish.

Full re-valve of the forks might blow the budget but changing from the stock 5W oil to 7.5W if you run out of adjustment - £20 and oily hands. Different offset yokes might be getting too serious but if the s/hand 2003 yokes (suggested earlier / above) have the same effect as proper race ones then they would be worth the fiddle.

Cheapy s/hand slip-on can if it hasn't already got one (£100). They're not too fussy on re-jetting if you are keeping the stock downpipes with the EXUP valve. Racers used to jack up the front of the tank by an inch and get a free 1 or 1.5hp! That said I've got two of these bikes and have never been bothered enough!

They're not madly overgeared like some modern bikes so wouldn't really bother re-gearing it.

Sticky tyres (part worns from a club race paddock £60 - £80 fitted to loose wheels) and finally it is amazing how much faster a bike is with some cheap face fibreglass on it! By then the bike is on a slippy slope to track bike only though.

All that would have killed £700 easily I'm sure. As usual much faster lap times will come from you rather than the bike.

Edited by moto_traxport on Tuesday 26th August 12:42

blade7

11,311 posts

247 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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moto_traxport said:
Main thing is the shock - its not just the quality of the suspension its the length (!) that makes the early bikes easier to steer. Secondhand Ohlins might be £300ish.

Full re-valve of the forks might blow the budget but changing from the stock 5W oil to 7.5W if you run out of adjustment - £20 and oily hands. Different offset yokes might be getting too serious but if the s/hand 2003 yokes (suggested earlier / above) have the same effect as proper race ones then they would be worth the fiddle.

Cheapy s/hand slip-on can if it hasn't already got one (£100). They're not too fussy on re-jetting if you are keeping the stock downpipes with the EXUP valve. Racers used to jack up the front of the tank by an inch and get a free 1 or 1.5hp! That said I've got two of these bikes and have never been bothered enough!

They're not madly overgeared like some modern bikes so wouldn't really bother re-gearing it.

Sticky tyres (part worns from a club race paddock £60 - £80 fitted to loose wheels) and finally it is amazing how much faster a bike is with some cheap face fibreglass on it! By then the bike is on a slippy slope to track bike only though.

All that would have killed £700 easily I'm sure. As usual much faster lap times will come from you rather than the bike.

Edited by moto_traxport on Tuesday 26th August 12:42
When I did my 99 R1 around 3 years ago, a good used ohlins was £300 and they have height adjustment to lift the rear, used 03 yokes have better offset and were £60, I found a set of maxton modded 03 forks for £250. The standard shock is rubbish compared to an ohlins and the standard 99 forks are too soft and have too much travel. These mods and sticky tyres made the bike a match for much newer stuff in the twisties.

twistedsanity

493 posts

269 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Nitrous oxide rules