Trackday Attendee's, A Word Of Warning...
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for all those bb'ers planning on doing trackdays this year, make sure your bikes are legit.
Having your bike seized is a s
tter, and that exact thing happened to 20 folk yesterday at the bemsee round at Brands, the feds turned up en mass and seized 20 bikes, police helicopter, 50 coppers, they shut the gates and checked EVERY bike.
Having your bike seized is a s
tter, and that exact thing happened to 20 folk yesterday at the bemsee round at Brands, the feds turned up en mass and seized 20 bikes, police helicopter, 50 coppers, they shut the gates and checked EVERY bike.srob said:
So what did they seize them for?
As said, if they're nicked then I'm glad they were seized, but if it's for more minor things like exhausts and number plates etc (which I suspsect is more likely if 20 were nabbed) it's a bit overkill!
they were bikes being used by racers, the majority of them seized the owners had no idea whatsover they were knicked.As said, if they're nicked then I'm glad they were seized, but if it's for more minor things like exhausts and number plates etc (which I suspsect is more likely if 20 were nabbed) it's a bit overkill!
im glad they were seized, but feel for the owners!
SirBlade said:
What exactly is the "warning"?
"Be warned thieving bds, the stolen bike you are riding may be recovered by the police and returned to its rightful owner?"
You do spout some crap. "Be warned thieving b
ds, the stolen bike you are riding may be recovered by the police and returned to its rightful owner?"It's simply a heads up that police are checking at trackdays and it may be wise to check your trackbike(if you have one) history. Granted this should have been done at the time of purchase but a lot of people don't bother as it will never be used on the roads.
Ruttager said:
SirBlade said:
What exactly is the "warning"?
"Be warned thieving bds, the stolen bike you are riding may be recovered by the police and returned to its rightful owner?"
You do spout some crap. "Be warned thieving b
ds, the stolen bike you are riding may be recovered by the police and returned to its rightful owner?"It's simply a heads up that police are checking at trackdays and it may be wise to check your trackbike(if you have one) history. Granted this should have been done at the time of purchase but a lot of people don't bother as it will never be used on the roads.
From what I understand it was 17 that were impounded, 1 of them being a sidecar outfit.
It does sound like it was a very heavy handed affair, with about 40-50 cops, all exits blocked at 6.30am, and a helicopter watching over anyone trying to 'do one'
It's a double edged sword really, I hate bike theives with a passion and glad the police are doing something about it, but I bet of those 17 bikes stolen, there isn't a conviction comes out of it.
I also bet that in excess of 80% of the bikes impounded, the owners have no idea that the frame/engine is nicked. The majority of these guys would have bought them in good faith as track bikes.
I wonder if they have the same manpower on hand to get the scrotes that are constantly taking bikes from bike bays in London (and other places)on a daily basis. This is where the problem needs to tackled!
It does sound like it was a very heavy handed affair, with about 40-50 cops, all exits blocked at 6.30am, and a helicopter watching over anyone trying to 'do one'
It's a double edged sword really, I hate bike theives with a passion and glad the police are doing something about it, but I bet of those 17 bikes stolen, there isn't a conviction comes out of it.
I also bet that in excess of 80% of the bikes impounded, the owners have no idea that the frame/engine is nicked. The majority of these guys would have bought them in good faith as track bikes.
I wonder if they have the same manpower on hand to get the scrotes that are constantly taking bikes from bike bays in London (and other places)on a daily basis. This is where the problem needs to tackled!
Fleegle said:
I wonder if they have the same manpower on hand to get the scrotes that are constantly taking bikes from bike bays in London (and other places)on a daily basis. This is where the problem needs to tackled!
Where do you think those bikes stolen from London end up ? Nice R1s, R6s, various GSXRs etc. They often end up as track bikes and this has been common knowledge for years as far as I can tell. Bikers are always bleating about wanting the Police to do more to catch the thieves but are happy enough to buy stolen bikes/bikes with no/little history or check.
Even a cat B bike . . . if plod check and the frame comes back as cat B then it'll also be seized as cat B should be destroyed. Some people think it just means it can't be used on the road but according to insurance company, it should be destroyed.
I hope this kind of thing carries on - maybe it will help the value of used bikes ?
(I used to have a cat B track bike which I hpi checked - came back as cat B so I could have been one of those with a sized bike)
Busa_Rush said:
Fleegle said:
I wonder if they have the same manpower on hand to get the scrotes that are constantly taking bikes from bike bays in London (and other places)on a daily basis. This is where the problem needs to tackled!
Bikers are always bleating about wanting the Police to do more to catch the thieves but are happy enough to buy stolen bikes/bikes with no/little history or check.
As CC will testify having first hand experience of this, there are a lot of people this weekend who have innocently become victims themselves.
I think it's exactly the right thing to be doing. Everyone knows that a trackbike is an easy way of disguising a thieved bike, so people should be far more vigilant when buying.
There aren't really any specific 'race' bikes sold to the general public any more, all are road based machines since the demise of the 125/250cc 'GP' style bikes. So, surely a track bike should have exactly the same paperwork and traceable history as a road bike? If it doesn't, then alarm bells should start to ring shouldn't they?
And as far as a Cat B repair goes, whilst some will be repaired well not all will, so I guess that a general ruling has to be in place to stop a potentially dangerous repair. How would you feel if you were wiped out by a bike barrelling along having snapped its frame?
Obviously there will be the odd innocent that gets stung by raids like this, but I also suspect that there'll be a few that have thought 'seems a bit good to be true, what a bargain' and haven't delved deeper into their bikes history for fear of what they'll find.
Having been on the receiving end of bike theft, and not being able to afford the insurance for a good few years after as a result, anything that is done to discourage theft and make shifting stolen bikes on gets nothing but a resounding thumbs up from me
There aren't really any specific 'race' bikes sold to the general public any more, all are road based machines since the demise of the 125/250cc 'GP' style bikes. So, surely a track bike should have exactly the same paperwork and traceable history as a road bike? If it doesn't, then alarm bells should start to ring shouldn't they?
And as far as a Cat B repair goes, whilst some will be repaired well not all will, so I guess that a general ruling has to be in place to stop a potentially dangerous repair. How would you feel if you were wiped out by a bike barrelling along having snapped its frame?
Obviously there will be the odd innocent that gets stung by raids like this, but I also suspect that there'll be a few that have thought 'seems a bit good to be true, what a bargain' and haven't delved deeper into their bikes history for fear of what they'll find.
Having been on the receiving end of bike theft, and not being able to afford the insurance for a good few years after as a result, anything that is done to discourage theft and make shifting stolen bikes on gets nothing but a resounding thumbs up from me
Ruttager said:
You do spout some crap.
It's simply a heads up that police are checking at trackdays and it may be wise to check your trackbike(if you have one) history. Granted this should have been done at the time of purchase but a lot of people don't bother as it will never be used on the roads.
Kettle pot blackIt's simply a heads up that police are checking at trackdays and it may be wise to check your trackbike(if you have one) history. Granted this should have been done at the time of purchase but a lot of people don't bother as it will never be used on the roads.
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