Farmer Kills Green Lane Biker
Discussion
Willy Nilly said:
and what would you suggest? She was walking in our crop while my colleague was spraying, he rightly gave her a b
king for being in in the crop and being no where near the foot path. her husnad then drivers through the standing crop, then follows my colleague back to the yard and both him and his son threaten the sprayer driver. So then, how would you deal with people like this? Have a nice cordial word with them.
A nice cordial word followed by a court case to recover all the damages/costs due to their tresspass would appear to be appropriate.king for being in in the crop and being no where near the foot path. her husnad then drivers through the standing crop, then follows my colleague back to the yard and both him and his son threaten the sprayer driver. So then, how would you deal with people like this? Have a nice cordial word with them. If they're causing that much of an issue.
Trespassing in the UK is rife. I used to live by a river which clearly stated 'No Fishing' along that stretch. Yet regularly people would ignore these signs and when approached get aggressive or simply ignore the fact that someone was advising them that they weren't allowed to be there doing what they were doing. Why do people do this? I really can't understand why people ignore clearly stated information on what can/can't be done in a certain location, particularly on private land. Prvate land means it's not your's and you have no say about what to do on it. What's so difficult to understand about that?
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as you break the law/ignore warnings the consequences are down to you.
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as you break the law/ignore warnings the consequences are down to you.
Silver993tt said:
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as you break the law/ignore warnings the consequences are down to you.
Death? Really?I mean, yes, if someone is coming to your house to rob you and might harm your family, by all means defend yourselves.
But a few ruts in the ground or a fish...
This a typical thread for the persecuted biker community.
If the article read "Farmer mows down who was trespassing on his land. The farmer has been the victim of several burglaries and his crops have been ruined by ramblers and other trespassers over the years". Then 99% of posters would be with the farmer.
There's also the small aspect of how the pitchfork brigade have managed to turn "the car toppled over.." into "mad with rage farmer with smoke coming out of his ears and eyes popping out of his forehead deliberately raced across the field to kill all the bikers, in the process he also killed Bambi's mother"
This thread is pathetic.
If the article read "Farmer mows down
who was trespassing on his land. The farmer has been the victim of several burglaries and his crops have been ruined by ramblers and other trespassers over the years". Then 99% of posters would be with the farmer.There's also the small aspect of how the pitchfork brigade have managed to turn "the car toppled over.." into "mad with rage farmer with smoke coming out of his ears and eyes popping out of his forehead deliberately raced across the field to kill all the bikers, in the process he also killed Bambi's mother"
This thread is pathetic.
Farmers are dicks, proven fact. The tresspass law is weak, farmers never seem to apply common sense when acosting 'tresspassers'. Had it myself, on foot mind, when doing nothing wrong and have been more than happy to tell them to jog on.
I don't think anyone has made reference to the fact the charges should be harsh because they were bikers, it's been mentioned because the incident involved bikes and this is a bike forum. So as for the 'persecuted biker' theory....... Douche.
The sound of the engines probably disturbed his subsidy counting.
May he rot in jail.
I don't think anyone has made reference to the fact the charges should be harsh because they were bikers, it's been mentioned because the incident involved bikes and this is a bike forum. So as for the 'persecuted biker' theory....... Douche.
The sound of the engines probably disturbed his subsidy counting.
May he rot in jail.
Apriliaer said:
Farmers are dicks, proven fact.
Really? Proven? Go on then, this should be good. For every internet fact you find, I'll find a fact that points to bikers being dicks even ones on an Aprilia. Farmers get a tough deal these days as do us bikers, remember ALL Volvo drivers are out to kill us.
Silver993tt said:
Trespassing in the UK is rife. I used to live by a river which clearly stated 'No Fishing' along that stretch. Yet regularly people would ignore these signs and when approached get aggressive or simply ignore the fact that someone was advising them that they weren't allowed to be there doing what they were doing. Why do people do this? I really can't understand why people ignore clearly stated information on what can/can't be done in a certain location, particularly on private land. Prvate land means it's not your's and you have no say about what to do on it. What's so difficult to understand about that?
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as you break the law/ignore warnings the consequences are down to you.
Luckily, we've moved a long way from this nonsense.As far as I'm concerned, as soon as you break the law/ignore warnings the consequences are down to you.
http://www.peakdistrict-nationalpark.com/kinder-tr...
http://www.marionshoard.co.uk/Documents/Articles/E...
>>The Kinder Scout Mass Trespass of April 24, 1932 resulted in the arrest and subsequent imprisonment of four young Manchester ramblers, whose only ‘crime’ was walking on the moors.
Eighty years ago, the highest and wildest moorlands of the Peak District were frustratingly out-of-bounds to the growing army of walkers from the surrounding cities, and were jealously guarded by stick-wielding gamekeepers for their grouse-shooting masters.
On that sunny Sunday morning, about 400 ramblers set off from Hayfield on the western side of Kinder to deliberately trespass on what was then the Peak’s ‘forbidden mountain.’
When they stepped off the path, they were met by a line of gamekeepers and a few scuffles followed. A victory meeting was held near Ashop Head and then the trespassers marched back to Hayfield, where police arrested five people who were charged, significantly not with trespass, but with with public order offences such as riotous assembly.
At their subsequent trial at Derby Assizes, four of the five young defendants received swingeing prison sentences of between two and six months. Ironically, it was the severity of the sentences which served to unite the ramblers’ cause.<<
Himself said:
Really? Proven? Go on then, this should be good. For every internet fact you find, I'll find a fact that points to bikers being dicks even ones on an Aprilia.
Farmers get a tough deal these days as do us bikers, remember ALL Volvo drivers are out to kill us.
I've seen it written down so it is a fact. Of course aprilia riders are dicks, just like Max.Farmers get a tough deal these days as do us bikers, remember ALL Volvo drivers are out to kill us.
heebeegeetee said:
Luckily, we've moved a long way from this nonsense.
http://www.peakdistrict-nationalpark.com/kinder-tr...
http://www.marionshoard.co.uk/Documents/Articles/E...
>>The Kinder Scout Mass Trespass of April 24, 1932 resulted in the arrest and subsequent imprisonment of four young Manchester ramblers, whose only ‘crime’ was walking on the moors.
Eighty years ago, the highest and wildest moorlands of the Peak District were frustratingly out-of-bounds to the growing army of walkers from the surrounding cities, and were jealously guarded by stick-wielding gamekeepers for their grouse-shooting masters.
On that sunny Sunday morning, about 400 ramblers set off from Hayfield on the western side of Kinder to deliberately trespass on what was then the Peak’s ‘forbidden mountain.’
When they stepped off the path, they were met by a line of gamekeepers and a few scuffles followed. A victory meeting was held near Ashop Head and then the trespassers marched back to Hayfield, where police arrested five people who were charged, significantly not with trespass, but with with public order offences such as riotous assembly.
At their subsequent trial at Derby Assizes, four of the five young defendants received swingeing prison sentences of between two and six months. Ironically, it was the severity of the sentences which served to unite the ramblers’ cause.<<
so you're happy for anyone to walk through your garden (assuming you have one)? Whilst they are there, you're happy for them to set up for the day and then leave all of their rubbish (cans/sandwich boxes/crisp packets/bottles) all over your land (garden)?http://www.peakdistrict-nationalpark.com/kinder-tr...
http://www.marionshoard.co.uk/Documents/Articles/E...
>>The Kinder Scout Mass Trespass of April 24, 1932 resulted in the arrest and subsequent imprisonment of four young Manchester ramblers, whose only ‘crime’ was walking on the moors.
Eighty years ago, the highest and wildest moorlands of the Peak District were frustratingly out-of-bounds to the growing army of walkers from the surrounding cities, and were jealously guarded by stick-wielding gamekeepers for their grouse-shooting masters.
On that sunny Sunday morning, about 400 ramblers set off from Hayfield on the western side of Kinder to deliberately trespass on what was then the Peak’s ‘forbidden mountain.’
When they stepped off the path, they were met by a line of gamekeepers and a few scuffles followed. A victory meeting was held near Ashop Head and then the trespassers marched back to Hayfield, where police arrested five people who were charged, significantly not with trespass, but with with public order offences such as riotous assembly.
At their subsequent trial at Derby Assizes, four of the five young defendants received swingeing prison sentences of between two and six months. Ironically, it was the severity of the sentences which served to unite the ramblers’ cause.<<
Apriliaer said:
Farmers are dicks, proven fact
I live in the countryside and know a lot of the farmers in and around are village. There nice hard working people. Yes they don't always abide to the law. But once you see how expensive the gear they need is and how little they earn from some produce you soon realise why they can be stressed. But calling them all dicks? Your just come across as a very immature and naive person.
obscene said:
Pretty sure my dad knew the guy/people related to him as I heard the story quite a while back. While the guy shouldn't have been riding on the land he shouldn't have been killed for it. Both parties in the wrong.
ha you mean is.While the guy shouldn't have been riding on the land he didn't deserve to be killed in an accident, albeit an avoidable one.
J B L said:
But a few ruts in the ground or a fish...
"We" spend quite a bit of money, time and effort to reduce "a few ruts in the ground"Machinery guided by satellite to reduce over lap to just about zero, hugely expensive tyres, optimum ballast to keep wheel slip in the optimum range, machinery on tracks and not working the land when it won't stand traffic.
This may astonish you, but the ground is where the crops grow and they don't grow too well in "a few ruts". They like loose but firm soil so they can push their roots down to moisture and nutrients, hence why people spend tens of thousands of pounds and more trying to avoid "a few ruts".
You won't see many animals out in the fields over winter because the put "a few ruts in the ground" and it stops the grass growing, which feeds them, which in turn pays the bills.
People seem to have very little respect for other peoples property, be it a nice car, nice house, phone or in this case somebodies land.
Himself said:
Apriliaer said:
Farmers are dicks, proven fact.
Really? Proven? Go on then, this should be good. For every internet fact you find, I'll find a fact that points to bikers being dicks even ones on an Aprilia. Farmers get a tough deal these days as do us bikers, remember ALL Volvo drivers are out to kill us.
I like you, you should stay.
Cock Nilly said:
PaulMoor said:
Willy Nilly said:
Only in the UK can people trespass and the land owner end up in court.
Because killing someone doing no harm to you is ok... one of the people in my block of flats keeps leaving their bicycle in my parking space (which I own). Should I be aloud to run him over too?Not only did he drive so dangerously as to collide with one vehicle in front, he drove so dangerously he overturned his own f
king vehicle. "Willy", we'll just call you "Cock" from now on. This idiot is a coward. He'd never have dared to drive like this and crash into a group of 4x4 owners, who'd have got out looked at another battle scar and beaten the s
t out of him. He pursued the bikers, in his landrover, knowing that in a collision, he' be safe and he'd cause an accident and a serious injury to the other party. He's lucky he's only up for manslaughter, if it turned out he'd be waiting for them behind the hedge for a while, planning it, it'd be murder.
If you think that this sort of action is appropriate, I hope your employer reads this and realises what a potential liability you are as an employee, and gets rid of you.
Edited by poo at Paul's on Sunday 26th February 14:15
Willy Nilly said:
J B L said:
But a few ruts in the ground or a fish...
"We" spend quite a bit of money, time and effort to reduce "a few ruts in the ground"Machinery guided by satellite to reduce over lap to just about zero, hugely expensive tyres, optimum ballast to keep wheel slip in the optimum range, machinery on tracks and not working the land when it won't stand traffic.
This may astonish you, but the ground is where the crops grow and they don't grow too well in "a few ruts". They like loose but firm soil so they can push their roots down to moisture and nutrients, hence why people spend tens of thousands of pounds and more trying to avoid "a few ruts".
You won't see many animals out in the fields over winter because the put "a few ruts in the ground" and it stops the grass growing, which feeds them, which in turn pays the bills.
People seem to have very little respect for other peoples property, be it a nice car, nice house, phone or in this case somebodies land.
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