urgent help needed with imobilizer issue

[zubair]

charged the battery this morning for 2 hours as the car has not been used for 2 months after the charge the car started ist time took it for a little spin then parked it.was going to pick my son at 3.00 pm in it went to start it fired up then switched off know it wont start can anyone help at least the car is in my drive this time please call 07968 946567.thanks

[RT/10Dave]

What did it turn out to be last time? Did you get anything sorted? Does it seem to be the same problem?

[zubair]

well the last time and this time it was the imoblizer its very strange the last time i went back to the car 45 minutes later and it just starded know it done the same thing i am charging the battery again know and will try it again in 30 minutes see wht happens

[viper paul]

Had this with the GT2 the radio coding has been upset on the fob you will need to reset by pulling the battery lead under the bonnet leave off for a couple of minutes then refit.

That will reset the imobiliser, talking to a radio tech seems that some two way radios or even mobiles and other car fobs can upset the rolling code .

Also check the fuse under the dash not the bonnet on of them can cause this problem, but is not marked as ignition on my car it seemed to be something on the fuel circuit.

[zubair]

paul you mean the red terminal near the fuse box .

[Viper]

zubair said:

paul you mean the red terminal near the fuse box .

yes thats the one, how old is your battery? a duff battery has been known to cause several other faults even when the engine has been running,restarted

[zubair]

paul the battery is new i i just took the battery off charge got in it and started ist time going to take it for a little spin see what it does do i still need to diconect that terminal to be on the safe side

[Leatherman]

A similar thing happened to me after I removed the battery to clean the terminals and I had to go through the reprogramming sequence as per the manual via the ignition switch. Give it a try as it can do no harm. It might also be the battery in the key fob playing up.

[zubair]

i did remove the terminal but it made no difference i cant get the car started..ok what can it be.ist is my battery week as the car is been standing or the battery inside the fob is week i do have to hit it on my knee but it is working as its opens the doors etc.or do i have a problem with a fuel relay or pump or is there is relay inside the key fob is there anyway by passing the imoblizer .i badly want to drive up in it on sunday

[Viper]

ive found a full charged battery will only last 2-3 weeks with alarm on,

is your car even trying to turn over or are you just getting the clicking noise or nothing at all?

[ViperGTS99]

without a trickle charger my Vipers batteries would not survive 2 weeks (with the alarm etc on)...a must!

[zubair]

the battery is fully charged its durning over engine fires up for few seconds then dies its turning everytime.

[Leatherman]

zubair said:

the battery is fully charged its durning over engine fires up for few seconds then dies its turning everytime.

Its imobilized.

[zubair]

whts puzzling is that the car was driving this time as i came to the lights it cut off and then it would not start again.

[zubair]

should i put new battery in the key fob would that make a difference

[MADMAX-UK]

I've just spoken to Zubair so to fill in a few details:

The car cut out after he stopped at lights.
When he tried to restart the car, it turns over and fired up for 2 seconds, then died - it continues to do this.
He can also smell petrol.
The key fob works fine - doors lock/unlock - horn toots as expected - led flashes as expected.

The only thing I can think of is the EEM's (Entry Module) got its knickers twisted and needs resetting.

Edited by MADMAX-UK on Thursday 12th March 21:15

[Viper]

get on the VCA forums, someone there will know the answer

Edited by Viper on Thursday 12th March 21:34

[Ginja]

just looking the issue up on the vca site and found these:


Alarm/Starting
Battery/Charging

How about a call to Mr Tator for help? It does sound like the immobilizer is not disengaging. Mine does this sometimes when I've not pushed the button right. I've learned to listen for the double click from the solenoid in the dash before turning the car on, it must do this or it will do what yours is doing.

Mark (I'll carry on looking)

Edit to add this one - the old hold the 2 buttons trick

Edited by Ginja on Thursday 12th March 21:46

Edited by Ginja on Thursday 12th March 21:51

[Viper]

Chucks just gone on holiday

Edited by Viper on Thursday 12th March 22:06

[Ginja]

Having looked (i.e. I read it after posting it here) at the last thread I posted there is a wealth of information there. The ultimate result was a bad fuel pump relay. Its well worth reading as its the same problem.

Mark